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2017/02/13 21:10:09
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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My first 3000 point game. Playing a buddy's mechanicum army - he plays mostly big robitz, not much in the way of vehicles. I decided to keep the vehicle count on the low end as well. Tell me what you guys think!
Mortarion - the reaping ROW
Siege breaker - artificer armor, refractor field, scythe, melta bombs
Quad mortars x2 - phosphex
Contemptor mortis - 2x kheres
Apothecarion detachment - 2x apothecaries with rad grenades
Tactical squad x15 - Additional combat blades, vexilla, nuncio vox, artificer armor sgt with power first
Tactical squad x15 - Additional combat blades, vexilla, nuncio vox, artificer armor sgt with power axe
Heavy support squad x5 - autocannons, artificer armor sgt
Heavy support squad x10 - missile launchers, artificer armor sgt
Spartan - flare shields, hunter killer missile
Leviathan dreadnought - heavy flamers, siege claws, phosphex discharger
Grave wardens x8
Plan to run the spartan up the center with the grave wardens and mortarion; turn 2 pop out in the middle of their line with the grave wardens and teleport mortarion to the biggest robot I can find (instant death scythe ;-) ) - all the while, phosphex to thin down troops squads or peel some wounds off of particularly annoying castellax; heavy support squads for felling the bigger robitz or chewing through thallax squads. Tacticals try to hold objectives and thin down troops as able. The kheres mortis will mow down whatever needs mowing.
Thoughts?
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~7000 pts
W-L-D: 10-0-1
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2017/02/13 21:54:07
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Huge Hierodule
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Nice, I am running 4000 points this weekend and my list looks a lot like yours except:
+1 Leviathan
+1 Deredeo
+1 Typhon
+1 Medusa
Onslaught force org
I only have 1 heavy support squad (missiles with flakk) and instead of running 2 x 15 tacticals, I am running 20 tactical marines and 10 assault marines with melta bombs.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/13 21:54:34
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2017/02/13 23:04:05
Subject: Re:Death Guard 3000 points
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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Excellent! Those are similar additions to what I would make! I'm taking alot less S8 sunder (via shatter shells and deredeo) than I would against a usual legion list.
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~7000 pts
W-L-D: 10-0-1
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2017/02/13 23:11:55
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Huge Hierodule
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I noticed you don't have much AA, though that's probably because you know what your opponent is bringing. The big monstrous creatures are a pain. Remember that everything with cybernetica cortex will force you to reroll successful to-wound rolls from poison.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/13 23:21:22
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2017/02/14 00:42:05
Subject: Re:Death Guard 3000 points
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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Yeah, I didn't tailor, I have a vague notion of what i'm up against but not specifics. But my general lists tend to just have one or two dedicated answers for flyers regardless.
And yes, that's why I don't feel bad about the amount of phosphex I'm taking..its mitigated by the toughness of the robitz. I'm mostly just excited to see how many robots Mortarion can cut his way through.
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~7000 pts
W-L-D: 10-0-1
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2017/02/14 01:32:05
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Huge Hierodule
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yeah, we're doing an Isstvaan V game this weekend. EC will get matched up against Iron Hands, I'll end up opposite Raven Guard or Mech.
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2017/02/14 13:05:59
Subject: Re:Death Guard 3000 points
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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Bring leviathan dreads. Severing cut absolutely WRECKS monstrous robitz
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~7000 pts
W-L-D: 10-0-1
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2017/02/21 15:32:55
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Huge Hierodule
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How did this list work out for you? My 4000 points of Death Guard went up against 5500 points of tank heavy salamanders and got ground to dust. Mortarion dueled Vulkan and his bodyguard for 7 rounds before finally dying though.
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2017/02/21 23:02:57
Subject: Re:Death Guard 3000 points
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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Why did he have an extra 1500 points lol? Firedrakes are the only unit in 30k that scares the gak out of me as a deathguard player. Scythes aren't a really good answer to those 3++s, and having instagib hits thrown back at you with a 5++ leads to some sad XIV times. How did the assault marines work out? Were they jump or foot slogging? I should have said this before but it might have served you better to throw in a few quad mortars with shatter shells (more S8AP4 sunder, like having an ~80 point deredeo dreadnought)
It went really well. We rolled for clash of the line, so a spear tip formation was my starting tactic; I stuck my spartan primarch squad up front to drive ahead, with the leviathan and contemptor flanking immediately behind. Tactical squads behind them and my heavy support sections lining a back piece of terrain, with my quad mortars behind even that, hugging my edge of the board. The mission was (can't remember the name off hand) the one where you try to get into your enemy's deployment zone; each zone (yours, no man's, enemies) is worth an escalating number of points. So anyways, we clashed about halfway up the board on both sides. My quad mortars didn't have the range to harrass his back lines but were a great deterrent to keep him from moving past the center of the board towards me (I ate some of his vorax and some of his servitors with them when he tried to advance); primarch clashed on the right hand side, and leviathan on the left, each with large castellax squads. Mortarion took like 2 rounds of combat to get rid of all the robots he was in contact with (because for some reason his scythe isn't master crafted; also, lucky invuln rolling) - a few wounds were dealt to him but he kept getting them back with IWND. On the left, the leviathan destroyed everything it touched. He was locked up with castellax for a turn and then got charged by a thanatar (lascannon variant); despite that being my opponent's secret anti-leviathan weapon, I made ALL of the invuln saves against his 3 pen/1 glance rolls and proceeded to kill the thanatar in one round of CC (severing cut is SO nasty against robots). He conceded thereafter, left with only one thanatar and a squad of castellax. He made a fairly large tactical error, though, and attempted to deepstrike all three of his thallax squads in my back lines for easy point grabbing and to clear out my heavy support; he mishapped on all 3; two were sucked into the warp and one was placed by me, in to his back corner (later dispatched by my kheres mortis). He also had a squad of ursarax that he mishapped, but they were just in ongoing reserves when he conceded.
Overall it was a good game. If his thallax hadn't mishapped, I would have had a much harder time. However, I don't think I would have lost. Mortarion would have destroyed everything in the back along with the leviathan and contemptor mortis. However, my troops might not have made it into his deployment zone for scoring purposes because of the Reaping (can't make run moves).
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~7000 pts
W-L-D: 10-0-1
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2017/02/21 23:30:33
Subject: Death Guard 3000 points
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Huge Hierodule
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We were playing an Istvaan V game (~50K points all told). I was positioned on our far right flank vs Salamanders. He was rolling a Glaive, Landraider Achilles, Vulkan + Firedrakes in a spartan + other stuff. Alpha strike killed one of my quad mortars and a bunch of tacs. Assault marines did pretty well, tying up some infantry and a dread. Quad mortars weren't that effective as he had all of his infantry embarked in vehicles. Will add shatter shots for them next game. Missile launcher squad did well. He assaulted Mortarion's spartan with Vulkan, killed it, then Mortarion deployed for the charge. Shot the crap out of his fire drakes with a bunch of stuff then charged. Took 7 rounds to finally kill Mortarion. He had Vulkan, Praetor, fire drake leader, and another unit in CC with him. I think I need more lascannons. Leviathan with the grav bombard and drill did OK, but he kept his Glaive out of charge range. With all the AV 14, the Leviathan with the storm cannons wasn't able to do much against them.
All in all, my list was set up to pound infantry. It struggled against heavy armor ... and there was a lot of it.
Fun game though. 50,000 points on a 24 x 4 board, 8 primarchs on the table over 5 turns and we ended up drawing.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/02/21 23:33:37
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