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Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






Hi people. So since two years (I think), I've been collecting all things Chaos related, all this while never becoming a dedicated WAAC Chaos player (mostly because it was futile). But since the improvement GW bestowed Chaos with, I thought I could give a try to be competitve (or at the very least semi-competitve).
(Can't believe I actually waited since my introduction to the game in 2010 to even consider this an option... Such sadness...).
Anyway, here's a brief summary of what I have (I'm clearly going to forget some):

Chaos Terminator Lord/ Sorcerer
Chaos Lord on Juggernaut
Daemon Prince
Terminators x10 (yes, I know, it's a lot).
Possessed x5 (Yeah, I have those).
Chaos Space Marines squad (10) x3 (Yes, you read me right, I have 30 csm models).
Rhino x2
Bikers x9 (3 are actually modeled to be cyclopia cabal sorcerers on bike).
Land Raider (Yes, I have one of those. I'm a hobbyist first, a player second, and an avid fan of Sartre pre-Marxism).
Chaos Vindicator x2 (Yes, I had two of those before the vehicule squadron rule).

Great Unclean One (proxy, though).
Bloodcrushers x6 (one that can be used as an Herald).
Plaguebearers x10
Bloodletters x20
Flesh Hound x20 (proxy)


So, as you can see, there's no real theme with my collection, and thus I'm wondering in which direction (ahem... legion) go.

What's your opinion on the subject ?

 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut




Well the main question is how do YOU want to play them?

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






That's actually hard for me to tell. I'm a pretty flexible guy. In the last years, I played SM, Tau, Necrons and probably other armies I'm to lazy to remember. I have no definitive favorite play style. I'm mostly just interested in giving some game-value to what I have.

 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




My initial inclination from your models is play Word Bearers CSM and summon the daemons.
   
Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






Well thank you my dear fellow. Should I convert myself a sorcerer on palanquin ? And which should be my main build : formations or CAD ?

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Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




 Khornate25 wrote:
Well thank you my dear fellow. Should I convert myself a sorcerer on palanquin ? And which should be my main build : formations or CAD ?


No on the palanquin unless you just really like the idea. Sorcerers are usually best unmarked and on bikes when possible.

With your models i would run the Sons of Lorgar detachment. Ob Sec on more units, crusader on everything, and some boon manipulation. I don't know if that is best in practice but it seems better to me.

Also in the interest of full disclosure, Death Guard is you more competitive legion choice. Its just not as in character for your model selection.
   
Made in us
Utilizing Careful Highlighting





Augusta GA

You could run black legion with allied khorne daemonkin and use most of your collection.

Black legion decurion with:
Terminator annihilation force with all the termies
Dedicated raider transport
Black legion warband with all your troops (some as Havocs), possessed, a kitted up marine for a lord, and a few of the bikes
Cyclopia cabal

A black legion allied detachment with plaguebearers as counts-as cultists for troops, the jugger lord, and a squadron of vindicators

A khorne detachment with the crushers, letters, hounds and prince.

Everything is used but the unclean one, and if it's a proxy anyway you could run it as a thirster

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/18 07:32:37


 
   
Made in gb
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

You could have a DeathGuard primary detachment: Chaos Termi Sorceror + Terminators + Bikers, then grab a Daemon allied detachmemt with a Herald on Jug + Hounds + Bloodletters, then have a cabal with three Sorcerors to join the bikers.

You would have some problems with flyers and your range would be restricted to meltas on the bikes and combi plasma/melta on the Termis but it's do able.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
Made in ca
Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions





You could proxy 5 bikes as sorcerers on bikes then put them in the cabal then take your 20 hounds in an allied detachment where the herald is the hq and 1 squad of 8 bloodletters. put the star in the hounds and go ham! if you have points to spare ally in a cad or anything else that can get you obsec. use the sroc. to summon your daemons and buff the hound star. This is the competitve build and i strongly reccomend you dont use it in friendly games unless you dont want to have friends have fun! FOR THE GLORY OF CHAOS!
   
Made in gb
Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





UK

Take a khorne daemonkin gorepack 2 units of bikes with melta and the flesh hounds

take a cy cabal and run them with the hounds rocking power maces and biomancy/telepathy spam

then take a nurgle combine arms using your marines as marked nurgle marines in rhinos with a nugle prince

use the termies as termicide, 3x combi melta deep striking
chuck the vindis in

there you go with what you have with a competitive edge to it

 
   
Made in gb
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

 Latro_ wrote:
Take a khorne daemonkin gorepack 2 units of bikes with melta and the flesh hounds

take a cy cabal and run them with the hounds rocking power maces and biomancy/telepathy spam

then take a nurgle combine arms using your marines as marked nurgle marines in rhinos with a nugle prince

use the termies as termicide, 3x combi melta deep striking
chuck the vindis in

there you go with what you have with a competitive edge to it

Is putting the bikers in a Gorepack better than having T6 bikers with FnP?

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






 mrhappyface wrote:
 Latro_ wrote:
Take a khorne daemonkin gorepack 2 units of bikes with melta and the flesh hounds

take a cy cabal and run them with the hounds rocking power maces and biomancy/telepathy spam

then take a nurgle combine arms using your marines as marked nurgle marines in rhinos with a nugle prince

use the termies as termicide, 3x combi melta deep striking
chuck the vindis in

there you go with what you have with a competitive edge to it

Is putting the bikers in a Gorepack better than having T6 bikers with FnP?


Well, it allows you to have flesh hounds with move throught cover.

 
   
Made in gb
Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!

 Khornate25 wrote:
 mrhappyface wrote:
 Latro_ wrote:
Take a khorne daemonkin gorepack 2 units of bikes with melta and the flesh hounds

take a cy cabal and run them with the hounds rocking power maces and biomancy/telepathy spam

then take a nurgle combine arms using your marines as marked nurgle marines in rhinos with a nugle prince

use the termies as termicide, 3x combi melta deep striking
chuck the vindis in

there you go with what you have with a competitive edge to it

Is putting the bikers in a Gorepack better than having T6 bikers with FnP?


Well, it allows you to have flesh hounds with move throught cover.

Hounds are beasts, they are not slowed by difficult terrain anyway.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






 mrhappyface wrote:
 Khornate25 wrote:
 mrhappyface wrote:
 Latro_ wrote:
Take a khorne daemonkin gorepack 2 units of bikes with melta and the flesh hounds

take a cy cabal and run them with the hounds rocking power maces and biomancy/telepathy spam

then take a nurgle combine arms using your marines as marked nurgle marines in rhinos with a nugle prince

use the termies as termicide, 3x combi melta deep striking
chuck the vindis in

there you go with what you have with a competitive edge to it

Is putting the bikers in a Gorepack better than having T6 bikers with FnP?


Well, it allows you to have flesh hounds with move throught cover.

Hounds are beasts, they are not slowed by difficult terrain anyway.


My bad. I never played hounds outside of a Gorepack, so I thought that it was the main benefit.

 
   
Made in ca
Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores




Canada

Hey bro you got the models for a gore pack which is the most competitive formation for khorne demonkin. U got cyclopia cabal bikers, the most competitive unit for csm. I say, a good compliment to that is world eater butcherhorde. Bring a warband for objective secured and demon bring with berserker glaive. That's potentially 11 strength 9 attacks on the charge. Plus feel no pain and it will not die! Your lord on juggernaut can run with gorefather, another heavy duty khorne relic. Run him with 3 spawn for meatshields.

So, what to do with you demons? I dunno, but I think word Bearers is not competitive. Summoning demons will get your sorcerers killed to perils really fast. I do like the tome relic from word Bearers which gives a sorcerer a pretty good chance of rolling posession(summon GUO). But in my opinion, if you want demons,bring a demon allied detachment or combined arms. Summoning demons as a mortal is really hard and unfortunately word Bearers didn't good enough rules for it. OR you can bring a demon prince with psyker from word Bearers and he could do the summoning. But I'd rather bring the glaive personally.

Bloodcrusher suck too now btw. But I love the models so maybe they would be worth summoning.

IMO, forget the demons, use them just for allied stuff whenever you have room for it. Go all out dog cabal and world Eaters warband and steam roll your enemy with speed and martial prowess. Blood for the blood god baby!
   
Made in ie
Fresh-Faced New User



Ireland

I think defo you want to be running a cabal alongside kdk doggies (either gorepack or allies/CAD)

Besides that you actually have loads of options, particularly because Traitor legions is such a fab book.
One thing no one has mentioned which might be fun with your marines is to run a CAD or warband of Alpha Legion.
Run the marines in min infiltrating squads and cover all of the objectives in obsec goodness.

If you bring Alpha Legion you also unlock the ability to take the mind veil which would give your deathstar some great hit and run

Praise be to Papa Nurgle  
   
 
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