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2017/02/20 16:43:07
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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For anyone curious, I e-mailed forgeworld asking about compatability, and this is what they had to say:
Hi, I was just wondering which, if any, forgeworld models/units are available to be taken as part of the new Reborn Warhost found in Gathering Storm II - Fracture of Biel Tan.
Thanks in advance!
- Bojazz
hi,
Thank you for your email. With regards to Forge World models and units to be taken in the Gathering Storm, they were not designed to be part of a Games Workshop supplement codex. however, if you speak to the people you game with and see if they mind you incorporating them in to the Gathering Storm. On a personal note, I would have no issue with your doing this, there has just been no official releases about this from the Forge World studio
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
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Forge World
So according to forgeworld customer service - forgeworld models/units are not currently legally usable with the ynnari due to a lack of official release regarding it :(
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2017/02/20 17:13:07
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Forgeworld models/units are never legal in formations/detachments for 7e 40k books. Unless they're Mymeara units in the Craftworld Warhost. Why should this be any different?
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2017/02/20 17:34:26
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mymeara is partially responsible for the confusion. It says the Sketchy Wraithknight can be subbed into the Wraith Host formation. The Wraith Host Formation is an option inside the Reborn Warhost.
Checking with Forgeworld to see if that held true seems appropriate.
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2017/02/20 17:44:55
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Goobi2 wrote:Mymeara is partially responsible for the confusion. It says the Sketchy Wraithknight can be subbed into the Wraith Host formation. The Wraith Host Formation is an option inside the Reborn Warhost.
Checking with Forgeworld to see if that held true seems appropriate.
Mymeara allows the Skathach Wraithknight to be substituted for a normal Wraithknight in a Wraith Host formation when constructing an Eldar army using the Craftworld Warhost detachment. It seems like the answer is a pretty definitive 'no' to using the Skathach in a Wraith Host formation taken as a standalone detachment or in a Reborn Warhost to me.
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2017/02/20 17:47:01
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Oh, my bad! I didn't realize it specified a Craftworld Warhost detachment. That's the kicker.
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2017/02/20 17:53:58
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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The really confusing part about Mymeara is the pile of formations that say they're designed for use with the Craftworld Warhost detachment, but never actually specify that they can't be taken as standalone formations. The very annoying bit there is if they actually can't be used standalone they'd be the only formations in the game that work that way, so we have no precedent to draw on for how they ought to be worded.
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2017/02/20 18:14:00
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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AnomanderRake wrote:The really confusing part about Mymeara is the pile of formations that say they're designed for use with the Craftworld Warhost detachment, but never actually specify that they can't be taken as standalone formations. The very annoying bit there is if they actually can't be used standalone they'd be the only formations in the game that work that way, so we have no precedent to draw on for how they ought to be worded.
Any formation thst requires a fixed ammount of units in order to provide a benefit for the units involved it's a standalone formation.
Juet compare all the Doom of Mymera ones they ask for X units and grants Y buff, while no standalone ones like the that allow you to add up to 5 ranger units or add a Hemlock,Wraithlord, Wraithknight alone do not.
P.S: if it have it's own datasheet entrance with requirements and benefits it's pretty much a standalone formation.
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2017/02/23 11:34:34
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am probably mental, but i thought that is a pun on "Greater Good".
Anyway, i have to use separate CW allied detachment for bringing supplement models.
Also, RAW Corsairs do not count as Aeldarii, lol.
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2017/02/23 12:55:14
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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AnomanderRake wrote:Forgeworld models/units are never legal in formations/detachments for 7e 40k books. Unless they're Mymeara units in the Craftworld Warhost. Why should this be any different?
Not completely true. If Forgeworld units can be taken as dedicated transports (e.g. Dreadclaws) or have specific rules saying that they can be used in place of another specific unit (e.g. Kytans), then they can be taken..
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2017/02/23 16:50:15
Subject: Forgeworld models in a Reborn Warhost
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Fixture of Dakka
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AnomanderRake wrote:The really confusing part about Mymeara is the pile of formations that say they're designed for use with the Craftworld Warhost detachment, but never actually specify that they can't be taken as standalone formations. The very annoying bit there is if they actually can't be used standalone they'd be the only formations in the game that work that way, so we have no precedent to draw on for how they ought to be worded.
All formations in all sources can be taken stand-alone. Why would you think the Forge World ones can not? No formation includes rules about being taken by itself.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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