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Last night, while painting, I realized something. My local IR, the only one in my area, seems to be attracting more and more customers. I, for one, am extremely happy. I hardly know any "true" wargamers, and mostly play against store owners.
One thing I have noticed, though, is how quickly I judge other wargamers. Before, I was happy if they even knew about Warhammer, but now I tend to ask quiestions once I meet them, and only then do I consider playing against them. Questions like what army they play, if they prefer AoS to fantasy and if they know what 30k is.
I just wanted to ask: What is your relationship with other wargamers in your area? Are there any?
Most of my local crowd are former droogs from my time as a GW till monkey.
For the most part, it's all GW, but there's a decent number of Infinity and X-Wing games going on at the local club.
I don't consider myself particularly judgemental of other gamers - though those who are snobbish about games they don't play can quickly get on my wick!
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My area is primarily 40k and X Wing. My area is also for the most part mostly competitive.
I'd have to give the nod to 40k in terms of numbers, but its not by a lot. The X Wing club we have in town has about 25 active members and they meet every friday and have for a long time.
AOS is for the most part dead until our annual campaign. Its played then for a solid three months or so.
Kings of War has an edge case existence about an hour away at a mostly tournament store. 9th age doesn't exist at all.
There are your bolt actions and other ww2 games played occasionally as well. Warmahordes has taken a huge hit and is pretty small now here.
The relationships are pretty clique based. Some naughty things get said about the 40k players by the xwing guys and vice versa when they play in the store at the same time. With the exception of a couple people, everyone pretty much does not cross over and play different games.
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The relationships are pretty clique based. Some naughty things get said about the 40k players by the xwing guys and vice versa when they play in the store at the same time. With the exception of a couple people, everyone pretty much does not cross over and play different games.
Isn't that rather, well, juvenile? I mean, its grown men playing with space toys. To the outsider, we're all nerds, all of us.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: You say 'naughty things'. Is that legitimate 'trash talk banter', or more heartfelt?
Trash talk. The xwing guys like to remind the 40k guys that 40k and gw are dying and that the game is a horrible piece of trash, and the 40k players like to counter with whatever it is they counter. It was worse when everyone was in the same fb group but the xwing guys have their own fb now so the only trash talk is over personal fb accounts now or when the two are in the same building at the same time.
Isn't that rather, well, juvenile? I mean, its grown men playing with space toys. To the outsider, we're all nerds, all of us.
Indeed.
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After being almost entirely based in a group of 40k friends that only played at home, I've gotten around to going to one of the area FLGS's (there are about 4 within driving distance) on a semi-regular basis.
I would agree that a lot of the store patrons are very clique-ish, although I would also sumise that more people are playing at the stores lately as opposed to a year or two ago. I would guess that I get along ok with most of the other 40k players although few of them talk to me and I usually just lurk unless actively involved in a game. I chalk it up to my personality, my army choice, and my age (the 40k players around seem to be split between 30s/40s or teenagers). On the other hand, I get along great with most of the store employees and quite enjoy standing about chatting in the store.
I guess though that I do assume a person's personality type based on what army they predominantly play or favor, but I don't let that get in the way of having a good game.
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I won't lie. There are a lot of my fellow gamers that I have no interest in actually playing a game with. Therefore, i try to kep my games to a small group of people that I know pretty well.
I can not stand pick-up games of any sort anymore. As I get older, i get much more elitist about my time.
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There are a number of stores around me, but I tend to just frequent one of them.
We all suffer from severe gamer ADHD, so judging folks there by the game(s) they play would take a multipage form. Just to sort out which games you don't have in common.
As a result we play any and everything. Does make coordinating gaming nights a nightmare, though. On the plus side, you can find someone to play SOMETHING with most weekends.
Easy E wrote: I won't lie. There are a lot of my fellow gamers that I have no interest in actually playing a game with. Therefore, i try to kep my games to a small group of people that I know pretty well.
I can not stand pick-up games of any sort anymore. As I get older, i get much more elitist about my time.
That's pretty much where I am.
I was pretty heavily invested in the X-Wing scene here in Northern Virginia, regularly attending monthly tournaments at a few stores and Store Championship. I would put out invites on the NOVA Squadron Facebook group or accept invites when people wanted to play in my FLGS (incidentally, that's how I met one of good friends a couple years ago), but not any more.
Within the last year I've pretty much stepped away from it and instead only focus on playing games with my group of friends at one of our houses.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: You say 'naughty things'. Is that legitimate 'trash talk banter', or more heartfelt?
Trash talk. The xwing guys like to remind the 40k guys that 40k and gw are dying and that the game is a horrible piece of trash, and the 40k players like to counter with whatever it is they counter. It was worse when everyone was in the same fb group but the xwing guys have their own fb now so the only trash talk is over personal fb accounts now or when the two are in the same building at the same time.
That's pretty sad. I guess it sucks to be the person who plays both. I wonder what would happen to the maschochist who player Warmachine too?
It was pretty silly back in the days of 'Sega does what Nintendon't' being a heartfelt sentiment and it's not any less ridiculous today.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: You say 'naughty things'. Is that legitimate 'trash talk banter', or more heartfelt?
Spoiler:
Trash talk. The xwing guys like to remind the 40k guys that 40k and gw are dying and that the game is a horrible piece of trash, and the 40k players like to counter with whatever it is they counter. It was worse when everyone was in the same fb group but the xwing guys have their own fb now so the only trash talk is over personal fb accounts now or when the two are in the same building at the same time.
Isn't that rather, well, juvenile? I mean, its grown men playing with space toys. To the outsider, we're all nerds, all of us.
Indeed.
That brings me back to the time with the banter between Magic players and miniature gamers in my old store
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: You say 'naughty things'. Is that legitimate 'trash talk banter', or more heartfelt?
Trash talk. The xwing guys like to remind the 40k guys that 40k and gw are dying and that the game is a horrible piece of trash, and the 40k players like to counter with whatever it is they counter. It was worse when everyone was in the same fb group but the xwing guys have their own fb now so the only trash talk is over personal fb accounts now or when the two are in the same building at the same time.
That's pretty sad. I guess it sucks to be the person who plays both. I wonder what would happen to the maschochist who player Warmachine too?
It was pretty silly back in the days of 'Sega does what Nintendon't' being a heartfelt sentiment and it's not any less ridiculous today.
Well the warmachine group when it was bigger used to constantly toss zings to the 40k players about how their game was garbage too.
The answer I've found is it is the rare person that plays in multiple cliques and whatever game the clique of your choice plays will typically be the game that you play.
That brings me back to the time with the banter between Magic players and miniature gamers in my old store
That happens too though its more uncommon since the magic events typically pack the store and miniature gamers can't play when magic events are running because there is no room. When they do play side by side, the "card flopper" vs "miniature garbage" discussion happens. The magic players like to remind all the miniatures gamers that they have a world championship on ESPN and can make a living off their hobby.
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Given the core of my local gaming club consists of people from my sadly defunct FLGS it's fairly mellow as nobody is a frother for any given system
I rarely set foot in the local GW but even there the staff and regulars just chat about GW stuff and don't tend to give me stick about the other systems
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I haven't played in a FLGS. I would like to once my army looks decent and I'm not embarrassed by it.
Are people generally friendly or the opposite?
I'm new and I don't mind people helping me out because I can be scatter brained at times, but I don't like being talked down to like I went full Sloth and can do nothing but scream and say "Baby Ruth" and "Chunk!"
auticus wrote: The magic players like to remind all the miniatures gamers that they have a world championship on ESPN and can make a living off their hobby.
Turnip Jedi wrote: Given the core of my local gaming club consists of people from my sadly defunct FLGS it's fairly mellow as nobody is a frother for any given system
I rarely set foot in the local GW but even there the staff and regulars just chat about GW stuff and don't tend to give me stick about the other systems
TBF, the local GWers shouting "nyah, you play games that are more reasonably costed, better balanced and more engaging" is about the worst example of heckling ever.
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Turnip Jedi wrote: Given the core of my local gaming club consists of people from my sadly defunct FLGS it's fairly mellow as nobody is a frother for any given system
I rarely set foot in the local GW but even there the staff and regulars just chat about GW stuff and don't tend to give me stick about the other systems
Cant speak for every FLGS and GW out there, but every one Ive visited has had friendly staff, and most people who frequent them will be friendly to you (you share a hobby, remember).
It was pretty silly back in the days of 'Sega does what Nintendon't' being a heartfelt sentiment and it's not any less ridiculous today.
I was born and raised in a Sega household and I'll die in one too!
How's the Dreamcast working out for you? ^_~
(and now I just realized that both of mine are pretty close to turning 20, and are only a few years younger than my older GW models. Where do the years go?)
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I used to play almost exclusively at home with a small group of friends. The local stores were ok and the local GW had a very welcoming atmosphere but I like to drink beer when I game so playing at home at night after the kiddo went to bed was the most relaxing. Then I moved and have now started gaming in local stores a lot more. I've been to some stores that were dank caves that required you to slowly back out as to not spook the natives but the two in Austin that I've been too are fantastic and full of friendly gamers and welcoming staff.
As for other gamers I'll play anyone once and generally don't take things so seriously so I find most games to be enjoyable.
My FLGS (well, not that local since I moved) has six dedicated wargaming tables and seating for around fifty card and board gamers. So... we get along just fine.
I'm a garage gamer, or just plain house gamer and there aren't any real groups near me, so i guess i don't interact with other wargamers that much at all. i do have friends and family who play games with me, and that's often enough.
I've had some unpleasant experiences at stores including some sexist stuff, but i think that was mainly bad luck/ just a bad crowd there. I wouldn't mind meeting more people who are into wargaming in general.
I don't do trash talk and probably wouldn't feel happy playing with people who do.
I consider myself as more of a house gamer now. I have a table, couple mats, and couple terrain sets. I play with my father and about 5 close friends mainly.
I used to game at my FLGS weekly, they had nice wooden tables, a running league, tournaments, several of which I ran with prize support. however, as of about half way through 2016 my FLGS decided that magic was more profitable than miniatures so they've done away with the nice tables and replaced them with all card tables bringing out flimsy insulation boards for anyone that wants to play miniatures. no more leagues or tournaments are being scheduled and I refuse to put my $1000+ army that I've spent great time and effort into building on a flimsy insulation board... I know nobody at the FLGS is replacing the army if it breaks
Necrons - 6000+
Eldar/DE/Harlequins- 6000+
Genestealer Cult - 2000
Currently enthralled by Blanchitsu and INQ28.
I've got a small gamign club that mostly meets at members homes so I don't see much of the local scene except for running occasional con or event games.
When we do head to the FLGS I tend to judge gamers only on whether they're minis are painted (or at least in progress) and how nice of a person they are. I don't care which games you play, how good a gamer you are what you're gaming knowledge, etc. If you're a nice person with social skilss and you prioritize having painted minis, we'll probably get along.
Home gaming with like-minded buddies has gotten me a bit spoiled. 6 years of painted-minis-only sets the bar reasonably high.
Used to go to a club where the two main voices were usually raised in opinionated political comments, and when they weren't they were engaged in badgering others to buy and paint big 28mm armies in a matter of weeks. And the club had a marked aversion to advertising and promotion, no matter how much they talked about trying it. Maybe because they'd have to be less antisocial if they succeeded.
And they wondered why their membership was dwindling to nothing.
I had to travel much further for my other gaming opportunities, but they were more kitchen-table affairs with a laid-back attitude to grey armies and conversations actually about minis, gaming, and other nerd media. Much more relaxing.
Craftworlders ~ 
Harlequins ~ 
Coterie of the Last Breath Corsairs ~ 
Blood Angels:
Eldar:
MO:
ASA: 
Necrons - 6000+
Genestealer Cult - 2000
Currently enthralled by Blanchitsu and INQ28.