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Hey guys,

So when Blood Angels Successors fall to Chaos, how does that interact with the Black Rage and Red Thirst?

Cheers

pretty much... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

BrianDavion wrote:
pretty much... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

I feel like there should be a story involving some Khorne Berserkers from the World Eaters fighting alongside this fallen Blood Angel with the Blood Angel just going spastic and the World Eaters face-palming haha

But on a more serious note: Unless they succumb to one of the Flaws, will they be able to properly function as Chaos Space Marines? Can the gifts of the Chaos Gods partially alleviate or even "Cure" the Twin Flaws?

well when I say "blood for the blood god" my point is more that these traits aren't that dissimiler from what you might see from a Khrone Bezeker. in all those cases the individual basicly goes nuts and is lost awash in a haze of rage, hate and bloodlust.

Seeing as though the 'twin flaws' are thought to be the work of Khorne who corrupted the chaptors geneseed (yes, Sanguinius' death did activate them but Khorne may have had a helping hand to turn them into hate filled killing machines) I would suspect most fallen BA who oppened themselves to chaos would simply allow Khorne to accelerate their fall to the black rage/red thirst.

Theres/was a BA that was part of Blackharts warband.
He didnt seem much different from a Flesh Tearer at rest. Til he lost it.
Dont really remember which story, but I think he might have chopped a WE to little bits.

 mrhappyface wrote:
Seeing as though the 'twin flaws' are thought to be the work of Khorne who corrupted the chaptors geneseed (yes, Sanguinius' death did activate them but Khorne may have had a helping hand to turn them into hate filled killing machines) I would suspect most fallen BA who oppened themselves to chaos would simply allow Khorne to accelerate their fall to the black rage/red thirst.

The Black Rage was activated by Sanguinius' death, and could definitely be argued to be the work of Chaos. The Red Thirst however, had shown itself in the chapter long before they ever encountered any daemons and it was already becoming more and more prevalent. The promise of a possible cure is what Horus used to lure Sanguinius to Signus in the first place.

@OP: There is a current successor chapter who are currently believed to be loyal and are strict adherents to the Codex Astartes, the Blood Drinkers. The only noteworthy change to the flaw is that instead of believing they are Sanguinius when they fall to the Black Rage, they believe they are their chapter's former champion, Holos. The truth is that their Black Rage was manipulated by a greater daemon of Tzeentch, so it is apparently possible for Chaos to change The Flaw but I think it is obvious that they would only change it to their own benefit anyways. You know, the whole "laughter of thirsting gods" thing.

Nah, it's just like the Wulfen. No Chaos tampering, just Chaos benefiting.

I feel like there should be a story involving some Khorne Berserkers from the World Eaters fighting alongside this fallen Blood Angel with the Blood Angel just going spastic and the World Eaters face-palming haha

There actually is one in "Chosen of Khorne". One of their best audio dramas IMO.

As for the rest of it? If you've read the unabashed drivel that is "The Blood Angels Omnibus" then you know what happens when actual Blood Angels turn chaotic. The answer is ... pretty much nothing. They are maybe a little more self-righteous/sanctimonious, but that's about it. It didn't seem like it messed with the Black Rage like most of us would have expected (although I honestly feel Swallow's grasp of the 40k universe at the time of writing was tenuous at best).

 Orblivion wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Seeing as though the 'twin flaws' are thought to be the work of Khorne who corrupted the chaptors geneseed (yes, Sanguinius' death did activate them but Khorne may have had a helping hand to turn them into hate filled killing machines) I would suspect most fallen BA who oppened themselves to chaos would simply allow Khorne to accelerate their fall to the black rage/red thirst.

The Black Rage was activated by Sanguinius' death, and could definitely be argued to be the work of Chaos. The Red Thirst however, had shown itself in the chapter long before they ever encountered any daemons and it was already becoming more and more prevalent. The promise of a possible cure is what Horus used to lure Sanguinius to Signus in the first place.

@OP: There is a current successor chapter who are currently believed to be loyal and are strict adherents to the Codex Astartes, the Blood Drinkers. The only noteworthy change to the flaw is that instead of believing they are Sanguinius when they fall to the Black Rage, they believe they are their chapter's former champion, Holos. The truth is that their Black Rage was manipulated by a greater daemon of Tzeentch, so it is apparently possible for Chaos to change The Flaw but I think it is obvious that they would only change it to their own benefit anyways. You know, the whole "laughter of thirsting gods" thing.

just because it existed prior to the heresy doesn't mean chaos wasn't involved in it. It's been suggested the chaos gods dicked with the primarchs when they scattered them. I've always assumed the Black Rage was something Khrone laid as a trap to eventually gain himself a second primarch