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So, all of these are actual people I've had to deal with in the last 2/3 years, and a few from long before.

1- The guy that brings his Warhound Titan to the store, and sits it down in front of him and gloats that no one has 'the balls' to go up against him. Sorry, Jack- the rest of us would rather throw money into an army so we can find people who will play a game with us.

2- The guy that doesn't shower/bathe. I've said it a thousand times: If you find yourself wondering if you should take a shower, the answer is: WASH YOUR ASS.

3- The Proxy-Master that doesn't WYSIWYG at all. Sorry, I can't remember which one of these armless torsos is supposed to be the guy with a heavy bolter and I'm not going to just let you dictate that once you start taking casualties. Go get some glue and bits or borrow a model.

4- The guy that doesn't play 40k any more, shows up to talk about how much he hates 40k now, and generally spends no money or does nothing but gripe.

5- The kid born in 1997 that talks about how 'awesome' squats were.

6- The Crusader for the Autistic guy. Look, I have zero problems with the Autistic Guy, it's not his fault, and I don't ridicule him. But I'm not going to play with someone that punches themselves in the head and starts screaming over a bad dice roll, and I'm not going to have some guy telling me how I should feel bad for the Autistic Guy and play with him. It's pretty hard to guilt-trip me, and my personal comfort comes first.

7- The guy that rags on you when you concede the game, because it is mathematically/logistically impossible for you to win. Sorry, dude- other people want to use the tables and I'm not going to spend another hour letting you blast my dudes to death when you have a 5-point lead.

8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

10- The Guy that paid double for a professionally painted army, because he can't paint- and talks trash about how bad other peoples' armies look.

I can see several of those combining into one monster.

The guy that brings his cheesiest list against the new player.

 Orlanth wrote:
I can see several of those combining into one monster.

#3 and #8 are the same guy already. Dude constantly shows up with incomplete models, and loads of them are 'proxies'. These aren't 'old' or 'secondhand' models, so the excuse that he's saving money is out the window. These are genuinely boxes of armless random dudes, very new, and the guy claims he knows his rolls and rules, and never has a Codex.

Oh hey, I've got another one!

The dude that claims to have 10 things, but shows up with 9.

 JNAProductions wrote:
Oh hey, I've got another one!

The dude that claims to have 10 things, but shows up with 9.

BURN!!!!

 JNAProductions wrote:
Oh hey, I've got another one!

The dude that claims to have 10 things, but shows up with 9.

Yeah, but he's a great guy and has a heart of gold. Also, I hear he is well-endowed and good with the ladies.

And to be honest, I had to spread them out and split guy 3/8, because 'one particular guy' is probably a bit too loaded to discuss here.

Yeah, from the about two posts of yours I've read, you seem like a good guy. So no worries-all in good humour.

That dude who insists he has superior tactics and uses lists off the internet of the current flavour of the month.

Bonus points if:

He shows up with a new army every time a codex is released (double bonus points if it's made up entirely of the new release and none of it's painted)

Blames the dice when they fail him, but tells you to suck it up whenever you have a bad roll.

Hides portions of the rules from you/outright lies about rules.

Insist this is a game of pure skill and only idiots lose.

Calls you a cheater if you win.



I have met one person like this. He insists on a rematch because my win must have been a fluke since i was using World Eater Khorne Berserkers against his tau gunline (battlesuits and all), especially since my dreadnoughts had 1 less HP than they should have. (I was new to 6th edition and so he told me all of my vehicles had 1 or 2 hull points, this is after I asked if we could play 5th edition because I didn't have the new rules yet. No he did not bring the rulebook with him).

The stupid thing was he used the argument that my dreadnoughts had 1 less hull point as a reason why my win was a fluke, since I was playing with a handicap and thus he was playing with an objectively stronger army. When I mentioned that I only had that handicap because he told me the wrong info and wouldn't let me see the book, his face turned white and then the club president kicked him out.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
That dude who insists he has superior tactics and uses lists off the internet of the current flavour of the month.

Bonus points if:

He shows up with a new army every time a codex is released (double bonus points if it's made up entirely of the new release and none of it's painted)

Blames the dice when they fail him, but tells you to suck it up whenever you have a bad roll.

Hides portions of the rules from you/outright lies about rules.

Insist this is a game of pure skill and only idiots lose.

Calls you a cheater if you win.

I'll raise you one: Same guy, almost- but he claims Forge World models aren't 'legal'. My friend plays 30k and 40k, and like myself he uses a lot of Heresy-Era Marines as his Chaos Marines. A lot of his things like Rhinos are the Forge World variants. He actually had some guy trying to get him removed from a tournament because he does this, and it was a dude that went out the day the new Rubrics dropped and bought them all out with the Traitor Legions supplement.

Players who.....

1. Insist on total WYSIWYG for you, but not for themselves.

2. Play the shell game over damaged transports, and are evasive as to which contains the tooled up command squad.

3. Decide that one is cocked dice if it is partly on a piece of thin card, but a six is stable even if its teetering at 45 degrees.


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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
That dude who insists he has superior tactics and uses lists off the internet of the current flavour of the month.

Bonus points if:

He shows up with a new army every time a codex is released (double bonus points if it's made up entirely of the new release and none of it's painted)

Blames the dice when they fail him, but tells you to suck it up whenever you have a bad roll.

Hides portions of the rules from you/outright lies about rules.

Insist this is a game of pure skill and only idiots lose.

Calls you a cheater if you win.

I'll raise you one: Same guy, almost- but he claims Forge World models aren't 'legal'. My friend plays 30k and 40k, and like myself he uses a lot of Heresy-Era Marines as his Chaos Marines. A lot of his things like Rhinos are the Forge World variants. He actually had some guy trying to get him removed from a tournament because he does this, and it was a dude that went out the day the new Rubrics dropped and bought them all out with the Traitor Legions supplement.

I can see this being real popular with organisers, people who drop a massive amount of money on Forgeworld being targeted for arbitrary bans has potential to piss off GW.

1. Guy who has no people skills, who moves stools more toward the middle of the hobbying table (and into other people's personal space), and when he talks, he crowds further into people's bubbles

2. a pair who blatantly were sexually harassing an employee/customer over a period of time.

3. Numerous examples of "dude who doesn't understand what soap is when showering"

4. Guy who gets a pre-order in before it goes sold out, and then repeatedly tells everyone the he got it, including a spell of about 10 solid minutes of just repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

5. Dude who's got some issues who yells at his models while buidling them, has conversations with himself, quotes entire TV episodes to himself, and all simultaneously does not know the manager's name (he keeps calling the manager by a name that most definitely isn't theirs)

The guy that puts his food and gak all over the table top while playing

The guy who likes to narrate his game at a Megadeth concert volume level.

The guy who takes over a fething hour to just sort out his army's models for a game from the giant plastic tub it's all dumped in.

 BigWaaagh wrote:
The guy that puts his food and gak all over the table top while playing

The guy who likes to narrate his game at a Megadeth concert volume level.

The guy who takes over a fething hour to just sort out his army's models for a game from the giant plastic tub it's all dumped in.

The guy who takes 40 minutes to set up because 8th ed warhammer vampire count armies were mostly zombies...wait a minute thats me

Sadly I am on the list. I just moved across country and went to the closest FLGS. Brought my standard list. Trounced the guy. He made the remark it was a bit to competitive for the local. Started looking at other tables. Sure enough I see a ton of fluffy list and just stuff thrown together list. I went from a weekly tourney meta to Fluffland. *face palm* Got to rework my Dark Angels to something not so....Brutal

The Backseat Gamer.

Absolutely no issue with a buddy up when we're showing a less experienced hobbyist the ropes - such games are usually pre-arranged.

Again, no issue at all where games have a GM.

Pointing stuff out to them after they've fallen into my trap? Cool.

Basically playing the game for them, without their request? Just sod off somewhere else. You want to play me, arrange a game. But don't stand their having read through my list and rattle off what I'm up to. It's rude to me, and insulting my opponent's intelligence.

The Top Dog

You're not. Not even close. This isn't your store. This isn't your club. Wind you neck in and let others be about their business. I'm pretty sure nobody cares about your W/L/D ratio, a strong hint of which is no-one else bothering to keep track. I'm equally sure nobody particularly cares if their list is 'sub-optimal', or whether their chosen race/chapter/craftworld etc isn't 'top tier'. So kindly sod off to wherever it is they sell social skills and find the beautify of money well spent*



*last bit does not apply to people with Different Needs. I'm a grump. Not a monster.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
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The Top Dog

You're not. Not even close. This isn't your store. This isn't your club. Wind you neck in and let others be about their business. I'm pretty sure nobody cares about your W/L/D ratio, a strong hint of which is no-one else bothering to keep track. I'm equally sure nobody particularly cares if their list is 'sub-optimal', or whether their chosen race/chapter/craftworld etc isn't 'top tier'. So kindly sod off to wherever it is they sell social skills and find the beautify of money well spent*



*last bit does not apply to people with Different Needs. I'm a grump. Not a monster.

We have a ton of guys that keep coming to our local powergamer to ask him what 'the best' army is. Now we have a dozen kids running around with boxes of Tau being coached by this dude, and they only end up playing themselves.

There used to be a "That Guy" who would show up, only "play" his "friends" (ie, play by largely his own BS rules, and browbeat/disrespect the other guys with him into playing his way). He's been asked to no longer come to the shop, and his former friends are great dudes, and a lot happier without him.

 Ustrello wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:
The guy that puts his food and gak all over the table top while playing

The guy who likes to narrate his game at a Megadeth concert volume level.

The guy who takes over a fething hour to just sort out his army's models for a game from the giant plastic tub it's all dumped in.

The guy who takes 40 minutes to set up because 8th ed warhammer vampire count armies were mostly zombies...wait a minute thats me

I wasn't naming names... Besides, waiting for you to set up the busses provided me time to walk around the store and spend more money on even more crap I must have.

Here's one:

A guy who was so poor at learning and understanding the rules of the game my friends and I had to constantly teach him again and again while playing, to the point were (excuse the terminology) I was effectively playing with myself. I even had to write his fething lists for him! When he won, it was because he was brilliant and he would excessively gloat about it, but when he lost it was because I cheated and deliberately set him up. He'd get really personal about it too. If I lost I didn't just suck at 40k, I sucked at life.

Five games of this nonsense (3-2 in my favour) before I told him I wasn't doing it anymore. He went away to sulk, then came back for one rematch. I tabled him on turn three and he quit the game forever. And oh yes, he never ever tried to play anyone else outside of our immediate group, ever. Because no one else was patient (or stupid) enough to put up with him.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:


8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

What's the problem about playing against someone that doesn't have the codex? Do you need to check any single rule or stats because you fear that opponent want to cheat? I never use my codexes or rulebook when I play, I can't stand players that always double check, making the game extremely long.


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 JNAProductions wrote:
The guy that brings his cheesiest list against the new player.

The guy that brings the cheesiest list anytime he shows at a local store.

 JNAProductions wrote:
The guy that brings his cheesiest list against the new player.

I saw this; Eldar list with bikes and wraithknights and the formations against an army comprised of a couple Chaos sets from Dark Vengeance. Elder player kept whispering "miss miss" every time the Chaos player rolled dice. Don't think the elder player lost anything. Then talked about jetbikes being weak and "required" for him to take. Asked me for a game. I laughed at him, told him no, and told the 12 year old kid he smashed "don't feel bad; that was an INCREDIBLY tough list!"

That guy that is just always complaining about the other people at the FLGS, rather than just trying to enjoy the game.

But I once met a 'that guy' that beats all other that guys in this thread. It was when I was 12 years old and met that creepy kind of guy who is way too interested in the younger players at the FLGS and eventually starts to touch them inappropriately. Luckily, he got banned from the store quite quickly after he started doing that.
Needless to say, after meeting that pervert I didn't want to visit the FLGS anymore for a while.
He also did not have a painted army and brought the same list every time, so that made him even worse.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
That guy that is just always complaining about the other people at the FLGS, rather than just trying to enjoy the game.

But I once met a 'that guy' that beats all other that guys in this thread. It was when I was 12 years old and met that creepy kind of guy who is way too interested in the younger players at the FLGS and eventually starts to touch them inappropriately. Luckily, he got banned from the store quite quickly after he started doing that.
Needless to say, after meeting that pervert I didn't want to visit the FLGS anymore for a while.
He also did not have a painted army and brought the same list every time, so that made him even worse.

Well... I think that a Phaedophile its... its much worse that anything in this thread, yeah...

I normally don't have a problem with Power gamers. But I just hate when they hide in the closet and bring the most OP list to pre arranged "casual" games and then just say "But I just bring 3 Riptides, not 4 as I always do! This is not OP maaaan!"

Urgh.

 Blackie wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:


8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

What's the problem about playing against someone that doesn't have the codex? Do you need to check any single rule or stats because you fear that opponent want to cheat? I never use my codexes or rulebook when I play, I can't stand players that always double check, making the game extremely long.

Checking everything is annoying, yes, but it's worse when you're using a codex (especially if I'm not familiar with the one you're using) and it's not there. It's turn 4 and your unit has made a charge (after being in CC by turn 2) suddenly has power weapons? Or, your special character HQ unit suddenly has a relic that a thing on turn 5 that you "forgot" to do in turn 3, but now it REALLY matters in turn 5. . . Yeah mate, THAT is why you need your codex handy.

There's a guy who hasn't been seen in my FLGS for several months now, who routinely pulled stunts like I just briefly described, and usually didn't have his codex on him. Another player at our shop, who genuinely knows his gak and happened to play most of the codices TFG played would regularly have to call him out saying, "that's not how that works" or "that unit doesn't have that rule"

Simply put, not having your Codex is going to raise my suspicions, especially if you have a history in that shop of pulling shenanigans and/or blatant cheating.

 Blackie wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:


8- The guy that doesn't have a Codex (in any shape, form, or fashion) but wants to play against you. No.

What's the problem about playing against someone that doesn't have the codex? Do you need to check any single rule or stats because you fear that opponent want to cheat? I never use my codexes or rulebook when I play, I can't stand players that always double check, making the game extremely long.

It's a matter of people "mis-remembering". I have played space marines since 2008. I still get gak wrong.

No codex = no game with me. Sorry, not sorry.

Yeah, you should always have your Codex when you play. People forget stuff, people remember things wrong, and it's good to be able to double check.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
That guy that is just always complaining about the other people at the FLGS, rather than just trying to enjoy the game.

But I once met a 'that guy' that beats all other that guys in this thread. It was when I was 12 years old and met that creepy kind of guy who is way too interested in the younger players at the FLGS and eventually starts to touch them inappropriately. Luckily, he got banned from the store quite quickly after he started doing that.
Needless to say, after meeting that pervert I didn't want to visit the FLGS anymore for a while.
He also did not have a painted army and brought the same list every time, so that made him even worse.

Jesus.

That guy I knew also turned out to be a nonce. Years later he was arrested, charged and convicted for having indecent images on his phone. I forgot to say that he was a creep as well as a dick.

Not owning the codex is forgivable. Some people game on a budget and some Codexes are not only expensive but replaced by constant supplement changes. I stopped bothering buying Codexes because there was no longevity or stability to the investment.

Its easy to make a list online, and a GW store will allow use of shop copy.

I have been gaming since the early 90's and I'm glad to say I've not really encounter any of these guys, except the autistic guy. And even he wasn't the yelling/self harm kind, just the no concept of personal space or if his story is boring as feth kind.

I am a lucky guy, I guess