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Made in au
Norn Queen






So, Outrage is hitting shelves. I got mine through the week and today sat down for half an hour and managed to get halfway through it. I'm seeing zero discussion online, which is surprising since I know there was an early release at Adepticon (and I think Rumble?) so I'm making a discussion thread. Mark all spoilers, preferably with approximate location in the book..

Overall, I'm pretty happy with it. I've never read a manga before, so I can't comment on how it holds up to the medium, but the art is really great and aside from the odd typo - which in itself is these days a mark of being an Infinity product - it's well written. Not sure if it's normal to knock out something so fast, given all up I'm guessing an hour to read through it. Other graphic novels have taken longer but have been larger format pages and more text heavy.

Spoilers beware! About the halfway point.

Spoiler:
I was surprised they knocked the team out so quickly. They made a big deal leading up to it giving the biographies of the characters, but none of that really came through. It's Hendelman and Knaufs story, but I was looking forward to the other characters too. The twist I guessed back when they gave the brief blurb about the story, but it was a great reveal over a two page spread. Keen to finish it now. Also Druze are one of the things that made me get into the game so seeing them feature so prominantly is fantastic.


I really hope they do more. While it's a short read, it's very pretty, entertaining, and like reading an action film. There were some odd jumps between scenes, but I'm guessing that's just like a 'wipe to other loction' type thing.

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Made in us
Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor






Gathering the Informations.

Was the art more of a cartoony style or "realistic" style?

I have a copy coming soon, just didn't pay much attention beyond the snippets here and there. As negative as I can be, I do like them trying new things when it doesn't impact things on their end too dramatically(art books and this seem to have had negligible impact on CB themselves) so I'm happy to support endeavors like this.
   
Made in au
Norn Queen






Both. The cover art is a good idea of how they drew the majority of it, but there's some scenes drawn to be a bit more cartoony.

The art style seemed to reflect the mood of the scene. Combat was very serious and hard edged. Moments of levity were a bit more cartoony.

It's definitely a manga in overall art style though, so go in expecting that.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Riverside, CA USA

Just got mine yesterday, pretty good read. Nothing amazing as far as manga goes, but it's a solid enough story and, importantly, it's an Infinity story. Were I just to rate it as a stand alone sci-fi manga title it would unfortunately be a bit mediocre and I don't know that it will draw in much interest from people that aren't already invested in the setting (there is a lot of really great stuff out there) but for anyone looking for more Infinity lore it really bumps it up a few notches. Art is absolutely solid throughout, although a few of the action scenes aren't quite as clear as they could be.

Spoiler:
I think I'm personally a bit too tired of the cloned-hero-as-villain trope. It's a solid story in this manga but it doesn't really bring a new spin to the trope and I've just seen it too many times by now. Especially because Knauf looks so much like a Solid Snake that the Solid/Liquid parallels were distracting

I also think that killing the team off like that was a waste, all that set up just for them to be gone in a couple pages and really just to make Jethro look like a badass and put the main Hexa agent on the run. Kind of an odd tonal shift in the story all of a sudden, going from Kelley's Heroes to Mission Impossible.

Would have been great if the team thought they'd gotten through the mission only to have Jethro take one out right as they were celebrating a successful mission. That headshot on the ninja would have been all that more powerful if it was just him and then the whole team had to deal with being sold out to yu Jing/media. That could force the team into hunting him down in the 2nd half of the story to clear themselves, getting taken out one-by-one Predator style and ending in the Knauf vs Jethro battle. Certainly would have lent more impact to each death and given the members some more screen time. Maybe instead of the main Hexa agent (Emily iirc) being betrayed and forced into freelancing, she knowingly takes the fall to protect Hexahedron. Hexa agents are described as being crazy loyal to PanO, willing to whatever they deem necessary to protect it no matter who it destroys, yet we have 2 (3 really) of them go rogue in the same story. Could have had a


So yeah, overall I enjoyed it but wasn't amazed by it. I'm an Infinity fanboy so I'd give it a B, although honestly for anyone else it's really a just a C

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Made in ca
Plastictrees





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

I think it could have been a better story told over several books. As it is it feels rushed, and fails to distinguish the Infinity world as being especially unique. I'm sure the latter wasn't what they were necessarily shooting for, but as the first piece of stand alone Infinity fiction there are going to be certain expectations.
Art is good for the style, action is a bit confusing, but that's not unusual for the genre. Type setting is a little awkward in the english version.

Ultimately it's fine. A neat venture for CB and I do hope they do more, but not something I would buy if it didn't have 'Infinity' on it.
   
Made in au
Norn Queen






 Kalamadea wrote:
Spoiler:
Would have been great if the team thought they'd gotten through the mission only to have Jethro take one out right as they were celebrating a successful mission. That headshot on the ninja would have been all that more powerful if it was just him and then the whole team had to deal with being sold out to yu Jing/media. That could force the team into hunting him down in the 2nd half of the story to clear themselves, getting taken out one-by-one Predator style and ending in the Knauf vs Jethro battle. Certainly would have lent more impact to each death and given the members some more screen time. Maybe instead of the main Hexa agent (Emily iirc) being betrayed and forced into freelancing, she knowingly takes the fall to protect Hexahedron. Hexa agents are described as being crazy loyal to PanO, willing to whatever they deem necessary to protect it no matter who it destroys, yet we have 2 (3 really) of them go rogue in the same story. Could have had a


Half way spoilers

Spoiler:
Yeah that surprised me. They did a big build up on Facebook, releasing the various biographies of each of the characters. Then half way they're almost all gone. I feel it was a misstep, there was no reason to knock them all out, and I think the final battle to invade the Druze base would have benefited from having a couple more guys there to fight the Druze again, rather than just Jethro positioning them to be killed by the Dolly Dagger in order for his faithful to take over.


I really hope they do more. Now they've done their first as a more generic story, they can do some stories that dig deeper into the Infinity universe.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




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Made in gb
Worthiest of Warlock Engineers






preston

It was actually quite good in my eyes, portraying the desperate fight for survival by the surviving team members after their plan goes wrong. However, there are a few quibbles I have:

Spoiler:
-Beba getting killed just like that. She was in a TAG, and I still am not quite sure what caused its leg to just snap like that. Even so she made no attempt to get to safety even though she still had a (admittedly brief) chance.
-Knauf just throwing a fully armoured Knight like that. I mean, Heavy Infantry weigh in at a hell of a lot and I think a Knight is what, a quarter of a ton? And Knauf just picked him up and threw him.
-Half the team being wiped. Surely a little more from them please?
-The slight rushed feel of the book, especially towards the end.
-(personal) killing the nekos. No one should ever kill a neko.


Apart from those one very interesting thing that it did spawn was a wave of anons on 4chan/tg crying about Emily being innocent and how she was set up, and a victim. Do people not read the fluff? She was a Hexa agent, and to be Hexahedron you have to be the very special kind of scum that would kill their dear old granny if their boss told them too.

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Made in gb
Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja




North Wales

I was happy with how it turned out.

Close enough to "real" manga from my amateurish perspective, enough stuff going on in the panels to make it worth another couple of reads. Wasn't anything that really clashed with how I imagined the Infinity universe to work, or look.

Spoiler:

I think that that Beba had her Anaconda's leg damaged by Jethro initially, then it got hit by a Guijia's CCW when the Glorious State Empire arrived on the scene. Things obviously got brutal after that...

Just because she was in a TAG doesn't make her indestructible, especially when said TAG is an Anaconda going up against a pair of Guijias with a Hac Tao keeping an eye on proceedings.

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