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hi

I think it shows they have learnd a lesson and it is a good sign.

What do you think about the new 8th edition FAQ?

https://warhammer40000.com/home/news/


So now we know for sure we are indeed getting 3 ways of playing the game. And the ruleset is going to be for free I really like that.

Your codexes will not be compatible with the new edition + All models we currently sell will have rules... jikes this could hurt both my armies a lot.

3 ways of playing, not impressed by this at all. We already have this.
Unbound -> Not really accepted by most of my opponents.
Campaigns with specific armies -> I am not into that
Bound -> This is what all my games usually are.
My guess is that the new system isn't going to change a lot about this.

Then again who know it might also be great and the worst that can happen is that I would only be be able to enjoy horus herecy and shadow wars.. I can live with that. Both games are fun and I rarely play 40k anyway nowadays. If it becomes popular and I don't like it I just sell my models and continue playing the games I like, if it is fun then yay I have an other fun game to play.

I'm optimistic. I am a little concerned that the current codex line isn't supported, but they are so unbalanced that is likely a good thing.

Will have to admit, I do love the tongue-in-cheek answers in the FAQ lie the "Why Should I trust you?".

They know Kirby hurt its Rep and it does sound like they want to listen at least..

 oldzoggy wrote:
Your codexes will not be compatible with the new edition + All models we currently sell will have rules... jikes this could hurt both my armies a lot.

3 ways of playing, not impressed by this at all. We already have this.
Unbound -> Not really accepted by most of my opponents.
Campaigns with specific armies -> I am not into that
Bound -> This is what all my games usually are.
My guess is that the new system isn't going to change a lot about this.

Then again who know it might also be great and the worst that can happen is that I would only be be able to enjoy horus herecy and shadow wars.. I can live with that. Both games are fun and I rarely play 40k anyway nowadays. If it becomes popular and I don't like it I just sell my models and continue playing the games I like, if it is fun then yay I have an other fun game to play.

Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

 The Warp Forge wrote:
Will have to admit, I do love the tongue-in-cheek answers in the FAQ lie the "Why Should I trust you?".

They know Kirby hurt its Rep and it does sound like they want to listen at least..

Exactly what i thought.

 The Warp Forge wrote:
Will have to admit, I do love the tongue-in-cheek answers in the FAQ lie the "Why Should I trust you?".

They know Kirby hurt its Rep and it does sound like they want to listen at least..

Yea I was like " Nope, but well played GW, well played."

I can't fething wait.

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

Unless they change how super heavies work, given that everything is being changed over.

Let the "this also does not satisfy me" cries begin.

Seeing as nothing is satisfactory, ever, no matter what.

The clean slate approach was just simply too logical to pass up, and the naysayers are, now at the latest, proven wrong.

Just what this game needs. Exciting times ahead.

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

Why not? Knights aren't particularly powerful, they can create somewhat binary gameplay sure, but they're not that big of a deal and are pointed very appropriately.

Never understood the hate for superheavies, only the wraithknight was truly broken(non-forgeworld) even the stormsurge was just 'very strong'.

I'm very excited for this. I've lost all will to play 40k, this is what I need to get that excitement back!

ERJAK wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

Why not? Knights aren't particularly powerful, they can create somewhat binary gameplay sure, but they're not that big of a deal and are pointed very appropriately.

Never understood the hate for superheavies, only the wraithknight was truly broken(non-forgeworld) even the stormsurge was just 'very strong'.

THANK YOU. Anyone that's actually played against an Imperial Knight would know that.

Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

 commander dante wrote:
Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

Would you prefer the currently vastly imbalanced books would stay instead, in all honesty?

If not, would someone elaborate what exactly is the approach where the differences between the codices get fixed and they work in a whole new edition without them being outdated? More FAQs? Yeah, I'll pass.

What happens to my codexes?
The rules in our current range of Warhammer 40,000 codexes aren’t compatible with the new
edition of Warhammer 40,000. These books will be going off sale very soon. If you do want to
pick any up, now’s the time - as all of the great hobby content and background information will
be as valid as ever.

Yeah, before they retcon half the stuff within next few years.

Otherwise I'm excited for the new edition, bring it on already!

 commander dante wrote:
Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

It's not at all if they have all the factions up on day one. Books becoming obsolete with new releases is normal and fine as long as there is something to replace them.
Altough it would kinda suck if we get placeholders only and then ahve to wait god knows how long until we get a proper update. Bretons in age of sigmar are still stuck with the initial pdf no?

commander dante wrote:Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

Not at all. It's either that, or we continue with the same issues of armies playing with codices designed for earlier rulesets or later edition codices' power creep like we've been having.

Roknar wrote:

 commander dante wrote:
Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

It's not at all if they have all the factions up on day one. Books becoming obsolete with new releases is normal and fine as long as there is something to replace them.
Altough it would kinda suck if we get placeholders only and then ahve to wait god knows how long until we get a proper update. Bretons in age of sigmar are still stuck with the initial pdf no?

I think because they're trying to phase out Bretonnia?

I admit, I laughed pretty hard at this:

Why should I trust you?
Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

Why not? Knights aren't particularly powerful, they can create somewhat binary gameplay sure, but they're not that big of a deal and are pointed very appropriately.

Never understood the hate for superheavies, only the wraithknight was truly broken(non-forgeworld) even the stormsurge was just 'very strong'.

THANK YOU. Anyone that's actually played against an Imperial Knight would know that.

Have you tried to kill a knight with a Tyranid list without GSC? I find it very difficult to do.

 commander dante wrote:
Ahh i dunno
As long as i can field 3 Kytan Deamon Engines (Replacing Lord of Skulls) in a LEGAL Competitive list, ill be happy

But the "Your books are now Obsolete" is a HUGE slap in the face

They woud have been anyway - older Codexes seledom work well and immediately start having rules issues and thats with relatively minor adjustments to the rules.

I, as others and I hope the game has actually been substantially adjusted and imporved from base upwards then there was never any way that the rules within the old codexes would have worked.

Currently there are two sorts of codexes - the Stupidly OPowered Dexes of 7.5 edition and the rest - again it cna only be hoped that they the various armies at least start off vaguely balanced.

nordsturmking wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

Why not? Knights aren't particularly powerful, they can create somewhat binary gameplay sure, but they're not that big of a deal and are pointed very appropriately.

Never understood the hate for superheavies, only the wraithknight was truly broken(non-forgeworld) even the stormsurge was just 'very strong'.

THANK YOU. Anyone that's actually played against an Imperial Knight would know that.

Have you tried to kill a knight with a Tyranid list without GSC? I find it very difficult to do.

Tyranids have always had problems with AT but yes I've done it. Bait one side and get the other by glancing into death, either with the Haywire flamer or S6 shooting.

But the Tyranid codex having little AT anyway is a Tyranid problem, is it not?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Tyranids have always had problems with AT but yes I've done it. Bait one side and get the other by glancing into death, either with the Haywire flamer or S6 shooting.

But the Tyranid codex having little AT anyway is a Tyranid problem, is it not?

Not so much. In 5th ed you could relay on your zoanthropes to handle the toughest vehicle which was a Land Raider. Know if your warpattack is banned or you dont have enough dice you are screwed.

God I hope they drastically change the psychic phase.

crimsondave wrote:
I'm optimistic. I am a little concerned that the current codex line isn't supported, but they are so unbalanced that is likely a good thing.

Aye, I'm actually fairly glad, the current 7E armies are so badly balanced and organized that dumping them is actually leaving me slightly optimistic.

ERJAK wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:


Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

Mwha ha ha ha ha, sorry. Ehm imperial knights are one of the factions in the 8th edition spoiler.
So you either have allies, adding them as allied super heavies in large games. Or you have super heavies at any point lv if they are actually a playable faction like the spoiler suggests

That doesn't mean they are going to be part of "matched play" game. But yes it could also mean they will be part of it. but i hope they wont be.

Why not? Knights aren't particularly powerful, they can create somewhat binary gameplay sure, but they're not that big of a deal and are pointed very appropriately.

Never understood the hate for superheavies, only the wraithknight was truly broken(non-forgeworld) even the stormsurge was just 'very strong'.

One Knight is fine, an entire army of them is something that many armies don't have a reasonable answer to without tailoring a list. As for other superheavies in general, the power level on a lot has risen and the pricetag has dropped, putting them into games too small for them to really have any business being in or resulting in firepower levels that an opponent cannot reasonably match.

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Your codexes will not be compatible with the new edition + All models we currently sell will have rules... jikes this could hurt both my armies a lot.

3 ways of playing, not impressed by this at all. We already have this.
Unbound -> Not really accepted by most of my opponents.
Campaigns with specific armies -> I am not into that
Bound -> This is what all my games usually are.
My guess is that the new system isn't going to change a lot about this.

Then again who know it might also be great and the worst that can happen is that I would only be be able to enjoy horus herecy and shadow wars.. I can live with that. Both games are fun and I rarely play 40k anyway nowadays. If it becomes popular and I don't like it I just sell my models and continue playing the games I like, if it is fun then yay I have an other fun game to play.

Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

I wonder how many years it's going to take for all the grandpa talk about GMC / Super Heavy to die down...

I'm sure you prefer getting face-wrecked by a barkStar or some other bastard build... So much better now there's no GMC/Super Heavy...

 Roknar wrote:
God I hope they drastically change the psychic phase.

Hell yeah

nordsturmking wrote:
Have you tried to kill a knight with a Tyranid list without GSC? I find it very difficult to do.

Have you tried killing anything with a Tyranid list without GSC?

morgoth wrote:

nordsturmking wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Your codexes will not be compatible with the new edition + All models we currently sell will have rules... jikes this could hurt both my armies a lot.

3 ways of playing, not impressed by this at all. We already have this.
Unbound -> Not really accepted by most of my opponents.
Campaigns with specific armies -> I am not into that
Bound -> This is what all my games usually are.
My guess is that the new system isn't going to change a lot about this.

Then again who know it might also be great and the worst that can happen is that I would only be be able to enjoy horus herecy and shadow wars.. I can live with that. Both games are fun and I rarely play 40k anyway nowadays. If it becomes popular and I don't like it I just sell my models and continue playing the games I like, if it is fun then yay I have an other fun game to play.

Bound is in no way balanced. I hope Matched play means restrictions on allies and no more GMC super heavies etc.

I wonder how many years it's going to take for all the grandpa talk about GMC / Super Heavy to die down...

I'm sure you prefer getting face-wrecked by a barkStar or some other bastard build... So much better now there's no GMC/Super Heavy...

Just because one thing is broken doesn't mean other stuff can't also be broken and in need of fixing too...