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..was great in its day -- granted last few seasons less so -- the ending was pretty though as one recalls

http://deadline.com/2017/04/roseanne-revival-roseanne-barr-john-goodman-sara-gilbert-1202078883/


EXCLUSIVE: One of the biggest comedies of the 1990s is making a comeback. I hear an eight-episode limited series revival of the hit ABC blue-collar family comedy Roseanne is in the works with the key cast members reprising their roles, including Roseanne Barr, John Goodman and Sara Gilbert, with Laurie Metcalf and others in the process of joining them.

The new installment is executive produced by the original series’ EPs Tom Werner, Barr and Bruce Helford as well as Gilbert and Whitney Cummings, with Helford and Cummings co-running. The project is currently in the marketplace, with multiple networks bidding, including original Roseanne home ABC, and Netflix, which has been staging reboots of classic sitcoms including Full House and One Day at a Time, along with new installments of cult favorites Arrested Development and Gilmore Girls.

Just like with the upcoming new season of Will & Grace — which considered a streaming play before closing a deal at NBC, where the original series had aired — ABC is considered the sentimental choice to air the new Roseanne episodes.

Roseanne remains a gold standard for its realistic portrayal of a working-class American family. It centered on the Conners, who lived, barely scraping by, in the fictional town of Lanford, IL. The revival comes as networks, and particularly ABC, are making a concerted effort to better reflect the lives of everyday Americans.

I hear the intent is for all principal Roseanne actors to appear in some capacity in the reboot, including The Big Bang Theory star Johnny Galecki.

Like NBC’s Will & Grace‘s comeback, which was triggered by a short, election-themed reunion video the stars of the series made last fall, Goodman and Gilbert also recently staged a mini-Roseanne revival in a video filmed during Goodman’s visit to CBS’ The Talk, which Gilbert created, co-hosts and executive produces. (You can watch it below.)

During Goodman’s interview, he was enthusiastic about doing a Roseanne reboot. “Oh, hell yes … if we could get everyone together,” he told co-host Julie Chen. “The Big R [Barr] and I did a pilot about five years ago that didn’t go anywhere … but we were very happy to work together.”

Gilbert was more cautious when asked if she would do a reboot. “I would,” she said. “Your only fear is you don’t want to do a bad version, because you don’t want to damage what’s been done.”

Roseanne, produced by indie Carsey-Werner, was a big ratings hit and ran for nine seasons on ABC. May 20 will mark the 20th anniversary of the Roseanne series finale, which drew 16 million viewers. The family sitcom earned Emmy nominations for Barr, Goodman, Metcalf and Gilbert, with Barr winning one statuette and Metcalf three.

On her website in 2009, Barr gave her detailed take on where each of the main characters from the show would be in a possible Roseanne revival: Roseanne and Jackie opening the first medical marijuana dispensary in Lanford; Dan reappearing alive after faking his death; DJ being published; Mark dying in Iraq; David leaving Darlene for a woman half his age; Darlene coming out, meeting a woman and having a baby with her; Becky working at Walmart; Arnie befriending the governor of Illinois and remarrying Nancy; Bev selling a painting for $10,000; Jerry and the grandsons forming a boy band; and Bonnie being arrested for selling crack.

In addition to Will & Grace, Arrested Development and Gilmore Girls, other TV series from the last two decades that have gotten a revival with some or all of the original casts include The X-Files, Prison Break and 24 (with Live Anther Day) on Fox, and Heroes on NBC.




.. hmm ..

..well.. it might work but I suspect this is probably (yet) another thing really best left alone.


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Might be interesting, hopefully her ego has subsided which was the issue with the latter seasons, although Dan pulling a Nate Fisher Snr would be a better call than an unlikely ressurection

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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Dan Conner, heard you were dead...

I know its hard to judge from a trailer but it looks kind of too jolly, but hey its the one true Becky rather than fake Blonde Doctor

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Probably work

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I bet this will be just like Fuller House.

It will be EXACTLY what it should be. It will match all the tone and themes and be just like the original. Which is completely unwatchable because we have all moves way past that era of TV.


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...but why?

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We'll find out soon enough eh.



If you mean why make the show - why not? If you mean in response to Lance's comment we're supposed to have moved past "this era of TV", I dunno, just seems to be the thing people say now post BSG-reboot. If it's not a 10 episode heavily-serialised grimdark psychodrama it's just not good enough anymore, apparently, and you're not allowed to prefer lighter more episodic fare or, heaven forfend, like both.

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Im fine with light hearted and fun. But its groan worthy to watch "snappy line" pause for laugh track "snappy retort" pause for laugh track.

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 Lance845 wrote:
Im fine with light hearted and fun. But its groan worthy to watch "snappy line" pause for laugh track "snappy retort" pause for laugh track.


Well, assuming they are doing it like the original and the video I saw of them filming in front of a studio audience is authentic, I am not sure where you are coming from with the laugh track thing.




Proof for doubters, here is the cast doing a reading in their new studio with the recreated set. In front of a live studio audience.

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 Lance845 wrote:
Im fine with light hearted and fun. But its groan worthy to watch "snappy line" pause for laugh track "snappy retort" pause for laugh track.


For God's sake don't watch The Mighty Boosh.

Not only is it spectacularly unfunny, but full of the very same you just described. With the added tripe of nonsensical endings which aren't clever or funny.

Oh no! Mod Werewolves! Don't worry, I'm King of the Mods. Ho. Ho. Fething. Ho.

Just watch Reeves and Mortimer instead.

   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
Im fine with light hearted and fun. But its groan worthy to watch "snappy line" pause for laugh track "snappy retort" pause for laugh track.


Well, assuming they are doing it like the original and the video I saw of them filming in front of a studio audience is authentic, I am not sure where you are coming from with the laugh track thing.




Proof for doubters, here is the cast doing a reading in their new studio with the recreated set. In front of a live studio audience.


Whether it's live or a laugh track isn't actually important.


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So I am confused on what you are criticizing then.
   
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The style of show. The 80s/90s sitcom is dead.

I grew up watching a gak load of shows like family matters, fresh prince, rosanne, Dinosaurs, etc etc etc....

Seriously go try to watch one today. Outside of a few really key episodes that are legitimately great moments in TV the whole style of show is just.... unwatchable. Fuller House being a key example of how these shows should just stay dead. Fuller House is EXACTLY like Full House. Girl Meets World is EXACTLY like Boy Meets World.

But god damn... so bad.


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 Lance845 wrote:
The style of show. The 80s/90s sitcom is dead.

I grew up watching a gak load of shows like family matters, fresh prince, rosanne, Dinosaurs, etc etc etc....

Seriously go try to watch one today. Outside of a few really key episodes that are legitimately great moments in TV the whole style of show is just.... unwatchable. Fuller House being a key example of how these shows should just stay dead. Fuller House is EXACTLY like Full House. Girl Meets World is EXACTLY like Boy Meets World.

But god damn... so bad.


Yeah, falling of deaf ears here. I watched Roseanne and Golden Girls almost in its entirety over the summer thanks to TV Land and Hallmark. Still holds up. M*A*S*H is still a great show. Dinosaurs is great and the Fresh Prince never gets old. Sitcoms are still good.
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
The style of show. The 80s/90s sitcom is dead.

I grew up watching a gak load of shows like family matters, fresh prince, rosanne, Dinosaurs, etc etc etc....

Seriously go try to watch one today. Outside of a few really key episodes that are legitimately great moments in TV the whole style of show is just.... unwatchable. Fuller House being a key example of how these shows should just stay dead. Fuller House is EXACTLY like Full House. Girl Meets World is EXACTLY like Boy Meets World.

But god damn... so bad.


Yeah, falling of deaf ears here. I watched Roseanne and Golden Girls almost in its entirety over the summer thanks to TV Land and Hallmark. Still holds up. M*A*S*H is still a great show. Dinosaurs is great and the Fresh Prince never gets old. Sitcoms are still good.


Indeed. I don't think it would say anything good about me if I said I no longer enjoyed straightforward, knowingly cheesy comedy--I'd take it as a bad sign that I'd become overly cynical and jaded.

I like to imagine that in 20 years, people will be saying the same things about the trends in current TV. "Man, remember when every big show was all gritty and edgy, and about horrible people doing horrible things to equally horrible people? Sooooo glad we got over that."

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I bet they will!

As i said, im not all about dark stuff.

I love New Girl. Bobs Burgers. Other funny stuff.

Its just the old style of it i cant stand anymore.


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Me and my kids (10 and 14) love watching Fresh Prince and That 70's Show on Netflix. I'll give Roseanne a chance.

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 Lance845 wrote:
I love New Girl. Bobs Burgers. Other funny stuff.


You know those are both sitcoms, right?
   
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I genuinely liked Rosanne back in the day. Definitely up for watching it again. Like Cheers it was still in a more relatable US that most other US sitcoms where the Dad was inevitably a Lawyer and all the women looked like models.

I also though they John Goodman was dead, dunno why.

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I agree entirely.

The inevitable and essential bits of misery in the show made it much more real somehow.


From what I recall the last couple -- especially the last -- season were a bit..... less entertaining, but it was great in its day.




The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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 Lance845 wrote:
The style of show. The 80s/90s sitcom is dead.

I grew up watching a gak load of shows like family matters, fresh prince, rosanne, Dinosaurs, etc etc etc....

Seriously go try to watch one today. Outside of a few really key episodes that are legitimately great moments in TV the whole style of show is just.... unwatchable. Fuller House being a key example of how these shows should just stay dead. Fuller House is EXACTLY like Full House. Girl Meets World is EXACTLY like Boy Meets World.

But god damn... so bad.


Then it’s due for a revival in the minds of telly execs.

Whilst I never really enjoyed Roseanne (Barr’s voice cuts straight through me), it is a classic. The gentle comedy with dollops of realism has a definite appeal. Compare it to the insufferable Friends, where everyone has model good looks, and manage to enjoy a lifestyle far beyond their visible means.

The rest of today’s telly diet is either high budget, or utter tripe like the Kardashians (well, feels like that to me). I see little reason Roseanne can’t slot in to fill the balance.

   
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From what i heard about classic MTV shows not doing well and all the reboots coming decades later that failed i don't think this can pull it off. Even if it does it'll probably throw in some political commentary i'm not too thrilled about like when Maud got an abortion in her old show for example.

I don't watch much tv anyway. The most i usually watch is south park and i can't say roseanne was ever a show that really appealed to me. It was more something i watched when nothing else was on. I guess i just wasn't the audience.

I also wasn't terribly thrilled with some of the characters. The fact roseanne kinda manipulates the beta male boyfriend of the sarcastic daughter. The jerk boyfriend of the nice daughter. To an extent the fact for the longest time the women of the show wouldn't even let the previous husband of her sister see his kid for fear they'd get back together. Thankfully they changed their minds after a while but still.

Anyway it just wasn't my thing. If i want to watch awful characters be awful to each other in a funny way i'll watch 'it's always sunny in philadelphia'. It's a much funnier and more recent show anyway.

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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Even if it does it'll probably throw in some political commentary...


That is probably the worst decision the producers could make.

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 flamingkillamajig wrote:

If i want to watch awful characters be awful to each other in a funny way i'll watch 'it's always sunny in philadelphia'. It's a much funnier and more recent show anyway.


YES!


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I'm just saying one episode of roseanne had her and all the other various women of tv. If i recall her point is her show stayed away from social norms and 'father knows best' and she talked about how big a check she got with betty white saying she'd kiss a woman for a paycheck that large too to which audience women agreed (though i don't think they said how much she made interestingly enough). I'm not saying i'd disagree with that but if you think the show won't dip into controversial territory with politics you have got another thing coming. Even staying true to the original show it was what they did.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Well, err, yeah that was the point. It was, in its time, the anti-sitcom - unashamedly working class in attitude rather than "aspirational", populated by actors who looked like actual people rather than knockoff Hollywood actors or models in a plastic surgery catalogue, and often deliberately political or controversial. Rosanne is one of the big reasons you get to enjoy shows like Always Sunny today, they took a sledgehammer to the tropes and tone of what sitcoms were "supposed" to be, if it wasn't for shows like Rosanne and Fresh Prince then American sitcoms would still be the same "family values" middle class snorefests they had largely been up to that point.

I don't know how necessary a revival is or whether it will be good, but to criticise it for being political is like criticising Friends for being banal pablum - it's just what they are.

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