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2017/05/11 17:03:12
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Been Around the Block
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The Soul Drinkers were a "renegade" Space Marine chapter, they are unique among those Chapters considered renegades in that they served neither the Imperium or Chaos and Instead fought for the Emperors Ideals, Their story was told through the titular series of Novels by Ben Counter. The Soul Drinkers were originally thought to be descended from the Imperial Fists but it was revealed in the Final novel that their Geneseed didn't belong to Rogal Dorn. Despite this revelation, it was never revealed who the Real Primarch of the Soul Drinkers was. I have a little theory on who it might be, I think the Soul Drinkers are Children of Fulgrim. Here's some evidence to support this: The Emperor's Children have weird mutations even by the standards of other Traitor legions and the Soul Drinkers had their fair share of mutations as well (Their Chapter Master grew frickin spider legs!). Plus if you look below you would see that The Soul Drinkers color scheme is similar to that of the Pre-Heresy Emperor's Children. Another possibility would probably be Magnus, some evidence would include the Mutations and the fact that a Tzeentch daemon wants them to be worshippers of the god. Well, that's my theory who do you think is the gene-father of the Soul Drinkers?
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2017/05/11 22:49:30
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I thought they were from the Night Lords
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2017/05/11 23:37:23
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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I'm not entirely convinced that they *were* not from Dorn, since a. Daenyathos is an accomplished liar, b. the evidence of the Blood Angels successors was taken after significant mutation and c. there was record of them following Black Templar chapter organisation during the ousting of Vandire.
However, the latter one is itself culled from the memoirs of said accomplished liar, so take that as you will.
That said;
What happened to Telos, and their general battle doctrine, gives some credence to Angron
The level of PROFOUND gullibility in... pretty much everybody in the chapter, combined with the truly nasty things the chaplains got up to in Daenyathos, gives the Urizen some claim
I'm wary of equating their psychic/mutation abilities with Magnus, since the triggering situation was direct involvement by agents of Tzeentch, who would quite reasonably want an army that could easily reproduce itself instead of relying on the KSons forever.
A longshot primarch would be the Khan (and they were, once, related to the white scars in the fluff). The self focused loyalty, insularity, and martial pride thing is quite valid for both chapters.
I play SD (first army) as a fist army and march under Dorn's banner and doctrines, so beware I have bias
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2017/05/12 11:36:21
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yougottapaythetrolltoll wrote:Plus if you look below you would see that The Soul Drinkers color scheme is similar to that of the Pre-Heresy Emperor's Children.
No moreso than that of the Hawk Lords:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hawk_Lords
And of course, there's all the Chapters whose colours are vastly different to their parent Legion (Crimson Fists, most of the Ultramarines Successors), and all the ones who use the same symbol as a Legion but in different colours.
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2017/05/12 15:17:31
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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AndrewGPaul wrote: Yougottapaythetrolltoll wrote:Plus if you look below you would see that The Soul Drinkers color scheme is similar to that of the Pre-Heresy Emperor's Children.
No moreso than that of the Hawk Lords:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hawk_Lords
And of course, there's all the Chapters whose colours are vastly different to their parent Legion (Crimson Fists, most of the Ultramarines Successors), and all the ones who use the same symbol as a Legion but in different colours.
Yeah, colour scheme isn't a good indicator of parenthood. The Howling Griffons are Ultramarine descendants and look nothing alike.
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2017/05/12 16:00:04
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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Never mind I miss read the post. My bad.
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2017/05/12 19:42:34
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Drinking souls is pretty metal, and Konrad Curze was metal, therefore I vote Curze
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2017/05/13 20:02:36
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Lawrenceville, New Jersey, USA
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I say they were formed from loyalist 1000 Sons.
1. They have a high propensity for strong psykers.
2. They undergo the flesh change that the 1000 Sons did.
3. They are masters of space boarding and void combat. The 1000 Sons that were not at Prospero were sent away with the fleet so they were likely a ship based chapter like the original crusading chapters of the second founding.
4. Tzeentch is the patron god.
I may be totally off but they strike me as loyalist 1000 Sons.
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2017/05/13 21:19:48
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Considering the rampant mutation, rampant stupidity, and rampant arrogance, along with Tzeentch targeting them, I'd reckon they were some idiot Magos' attempt to make loyalist Thousand Sons.
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2017/05/16 15:01:07
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Dakka Veteran
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Not sure why Sanguinius is so high in the vote. They turn into vampires, not spider people.
They dont turn into a puddle of goop like the 1k sons or the Ec.
They do follow a book, like Lorgar and Guilliman. So possibles.
But neither were gene unstable.
They can use Dorns gene locked light saber. But arent IF.
Im going with EC and IF genes wacked together in the 21st founding by one of Cawls failed experiments.
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2017/05/24 03:28:12
Subject: [Spoiler] Who is the True Primarch of the Soul Drinkers?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's been a while, but I thought only Dornian descendants could use the relic that sarpedon kept going after? Were they not descendants of dorn?
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