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Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




New Zealand

I paint tyranids, I'm half way through my army and I love my colour scheme. Up until now I've spray painted my models with Skull white primer from GW. I then proceed to wash all the skin areas of my models with Seraphin Sepia wash creating a light bone like colour (I do more stuff but that's the important part for the story). Much to my concern GW has replaced Skull white primer with Corax white (I don't like change). As you may be aware Corax white is not white at all, it's a grey. I was foolish to let myself be convinced by GW staff that it would look exactly the same with my colour scheme, if not slightly better. So I went ahead and got a can and spray painted about $1000 worth of models I had assembled ready to go.... It looked OK going on, maybe I don't have the best eye for it but I couldn't see a significant difference in tone to my previous skull white spraying sessions. I mean it had a bit of a gakky texture but that's GW spray paint in general, and a debate for another time. Once I washed a model with Seriphim Sepia it became horrifyingly obvious how different it was. A Corax white model looks completely different, you can tell them easily apart from the other side of the room and, as I'm sure you can tell from the lead in, I truly hate the new colour. I've given all the models one good coat of the Corax white.

So I ask you fine people:
What's the best way for me to save this massive pile of tyranid units from the hideous Corax white priming?
Would my best option be to get a new white spray paint and just spray them again? Would that start to lose detail on the models? I mean even if it does a little bit that's infinitely better than losing them altogether, but it would be unfortunate.
I know GW doesn't sell any other white primer spray paint, and even if they did I have zero trust in them now. Can anyone suggest another brand of pure white model spray paint, ideally something that very very closely matches skull white? I've read people recommend P3 and Army Painter Matt White.
Should I get a pottle and just paint a white primer onto them with a brush? I'm starting to find spray painting too dangerous these days and it's no longer becoming worth the time saving. Does a pottle white primer even exist?

Thanks for all your help!
   
Made in gb
Storm Trooper with Maglight





Bath uk

If they've already been primed in 'almost white' then it seems that the best plan would be to just paint them white scar with a brush straight from the pot.

you wouldnt have any issues with paint coverage due to the almost white primer underneath.

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Made in nz
Fresh-Faced New User




New Zealand

I took your advice and gave it a go. It didn't work as well as I was hoping, unfortunately. It's getting hard to describe what I'm seeing so I've taken some photos. They don't seem to fully grasp how different in shade the Skull white undercoat is from the Corax white, you'll just have to trust me. All the models in the pictures have been washed with Seraphim Sepia.

In the first picture You can see the difference in colouration between all three of the termagaunts. The Corax white undercoat plus white scar layer has a thickness to it that I'm not a fan of. And overall it seems lighter than just the skull white undercoat alone.

It appears that the texture created by the Corax white is actually far more significant that I originally thought. It's quite bad. In the second image you can see the difference between the Corax white coated model and the Skull white coated model. The Corax white has lowered the resolution of the whole model and softened any sharp edge of detail. The Corax has an almost powdery texture on most of the models, when I run my fingers over them there's fine paint on my hands.. You can even see the static/grainy texture in these images.

The more I look at these models the more I think I need to go nuclear and try to get the Corax off them and start again. Think that would be achievable, any advice?

Cheers!
[Thumb - coraxvsskullcomparison.jpg]
Colouration comparison

[Thumb - corax vs skull.jpg]
Texture comparison

   
Made in gb
Storm Trooper with Maglight





Bath uk

Isopropyl alcohol is my go to for stripping paint but that doesnt get 100 percent of the primer off. definietly enough to re-prime over the top of though.

to be honest the difference to me, is marginal and once the carapace was painted im not sure id know the difference.
good luck, i've got nothing else to help


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Sorry for reviving an old thread, but my search led me here and I have the exact same problem as OP. The greyness of the new Corax White compared to actual white isn't too bad when used as an undercoat for darker or earthier colors. But when painting extremely bright colors like magical Tzeentch flames or anything that relies on perfect, pure yellow, cyan, or magenta, the difference in vibrancy is dramatic. Certain ultra-saturated hues really require the whitest white possible undercoat in order to "pop", and with Corax white everything ends up looking dull, even after many coats.

Anyone know of any true white primers that work for 40k? The only other brand I've tried is Army Painter, which ended up super dusty and cost me several model stripping sessions before I tossed it.

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South Portsmouth, KY USA

Walmart flat white $0.98 a can.

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Made in au
Fresh-Faced New User




New Zealand

I ended up primer over it with Tamiya 180ml White Surface Primer (Fine). It's a pretty spenny way to go, at least in New Zealand, but it's something. I can still clearly tell the difference but it's significantly better than Corax, that's for sure. So I never really found a 100% solution, which saddened me, but it's close enough that I can go on painting with only medium to mild discomfort.

As above pictures don't seem to really capture this well, but the genestealer on the left has got a double coat of Tamiya and the hormagaunt on the right has got Screaming Skull. Then they both got Seraphim Sepia washed.

I hope you find something that you can stomach! If you do come across anything that's identical I'll love to know!
[Thumb - Tamiya on the left and Screaming Skull on the right.jpg]
Tiamiya on the left and Screaming Skull on the right

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