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So what do you think, do you like the models, do the fit the fluff?

From what little we have seen so far the models look great and the fluff has potential.

The models seem legit, the fluff is a perfect example of why everyone makes fun of GW sometimes. I just can't imagine why they couldn't have come up with someone less shoehorned in. But, again, GW.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
From what little we have seen so far the models look great and the fluff has potential.

I second this.

Meh. Cool enough models. Poor execution. Sneaking suspicions of GW's endgame. Depending on box content terrain wise might invest in new starter box. Else will likely wait for scans of rules to show up online and skip paying GW for much else going forward.

Don't like any of it. The setting didn't need more marines with added marine, it needed more diversity and focus on stuff that wasn't marines. Even though the realist in me knows that was never going to happen...

100% In it for the models.

Meh on the fluff but mostly because we dont know everything yet.

100% laughing my ass off at the sky is falling crowd.

The models are fine, they look neat.

The fluff GW is trying to go with here, is...well, stupid.

Stupid on multiple levels. Monstrously so.

What makes it even worse is that it's completely unnecessary.

But the models are fine.

I'm not exactly thrilled that Guilliman ordered new Marines to be made 10k years ago, not completely convinced that the Emperor's (second ) favourite child would immediately try to recreate the Emperor's gift to mankind. Although this could just be pent up heretical bias. The model itself looks fine (I actually like it better than the nu-Plague marine).

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

^Nice avatar m8.

The models are okay. I have never been interested in "true-scale" Space Marines, as the models are all abstractions and representations anyways. I mean, technically a TRUE-scale Marine would be represented by impressive cosplay, not a plastic model barely an inch tall. I would have preferred that GW support basically any other army for 40K before Space Marines, particularly moving pewter and resin kits into HIPS.

The fluff has a lot of potential. I have gone over it in other threads, but suffice it to say that I can see some themes underlying them that, if GW were to follow through on them, would make for some decent fluff and character development for the Imperium and Guilliman himself.

Yes and yes

I think the models are awesome, but the fluff is throwaway nonsense that was most likely phoned in as a marketing decision to justify two tiers of marines in game.

I don't find them unattractive...but the models and the fluff are lazy as feth.

 Desubot wrote:
100% In it for the models.

Meh on the fluff but mostly because we dont know everything yet.

That's how I feel. I think the models are great. My initial reaction to the fluff is that I don't like it but it's impossible to judge with just the little blurb that GW has released so far.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
100% In it for the models.

Meh on the fluff but mostly because we dont know everything yet.

That's how I feel. I think the models are great. My initial reaction to the fluff is that I don't like it but it's impossible to judge with just the little blurb that GW has released so far.

All the blurbs are so far over excited teasers we cant take any of it right now at full face value

things may get stupid or it may be awesome. we dont even know if 8th will be that good of a game overall.

they may throw in stupid things like formations of 7th that we dont know about

the only concrete thing we have is there are new models and they look bitchin so thats what im focusing on

I think GW created the nu-marines because they came to realise regular marines are not really much good overall and wanted to bring them up to the required level but couldn't just retcon their entire range in one hit so are going about a longer replacement plan which also promotes more sales.

To me it works, I don't have Marines at the moment and I want some marines that are actual marines. The new model and rules just feel right to me


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I think GW created the nu-marines because they came to realise regular marines are not really much good overall and wanted to bring them up to the required level but couldn't just retcon their entire range in one hit so are going about a longer replacement plan which also promotes more sales.

To me it works, I don't have Marines at the moment and I want some marines that are actual marines. The new model and rules just feel right to me

The models are how marines should always look, I don't know about the rules, they might not have too much of a purpose, but rend on shooting is really powerful in AoS, it might be rare to have rend on basic infantry weapons but I'm not sure.

The fluff is sorta cool but sorta silly, could make for a really awesome civil war, chapter masters and battle brothers don't accept the numarines into their ranks, and the numarines feel superior to their older counterpart. Could be cool, but they probably won't go down that route.

Also- I love how we have literally seen artwork of a primaris marine and a primaris chaos marine since the official announcement of 8th, just noticed that and realized nobody has mentioned/noticed it to my understanding yet.

Change can be scary, but I love the models and I think we will all come out fine on the other side.


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We could be getting AoS'd after all

I think they look cool.
But then I don't own a single Space Marine. Perhaps if I had 500 of them I might be rightly annoyed.

The models are pretty nice, I'm not going to judge e fluff until we have more than a barebones description.

The pole is missing quite a few possible options and variations, so I'll be abstaining.

The models are lovely (not something I thought I would say about a marine model after Centurions came out), the fluff is... We really have no clue yet. All we know is the bit about them getting commissioned (at least the vague bits of it), but GW hasn't told us anything more about them beyond that. With the latter being arguably the most important part it is hard to say if the fluff is good or bad because we don't know it. So far the fluff articles have raised more questions than they've answered, and largely just been fluff pieces and filler. So I'm not putting much stock in to things before 8th actually drops and we can get details.

So the models are fantastic, but we don't know much of a thing about the fluff. It could end up being good, could end up being bad, could end up being silly and over the top (but in the good 2000AD sort of way).

 Desubot wrote:
100% In it for the models.

Meh on the fluff but mostly because we dont know everything yet.

100% laughing my ass off at the sky is falling crowd.

Pretty much me to a tee on this subject. I've never really been a fan of the space marines but I like these new models. In fact if they come out with some terminator variant then I'll definitely be starting a new SM army. And while I do laugh a bit at the doom and gloomers I also understand the want for the latest and greatest and how people who've invested a lot of money and time in there armies can feel a bit jaded about owning "outdated" miniatures.

Models are great, fluff is lacking, to put it lightly.

My Loyalist army is a mounted 8th company reserve white scars successor. We ARE the reinforcements. So NU Marines don't fit my army composition/looks. I will happily go halfsies on the new starter with someone at my FLGS and take all the Death Guard stuff.

I can't see myself buying them for a number of reasons (i like things that are smaller in general, not huge) but really i'm still waiting to see more.

I like some of my oldest tiniest marines best (though they are not as old as some)

 Sensual_T_Rex wrote:
I also understand the want for the latest and greatest and how people who've invested a lot of money and time in there armies can feel a bit jaded about owning "outdated" miniatures.

I wonder how these people react when companies release new and upgraded versions of other products they may own. Do they cry when Ford releases a new version of the Mondeo? Do they go running into the dealership screaming "You just invalidated my Mondeo! I literally can't drive it, or look at it again because you have just released a new version" What do they do about mobile phones? Do they scream bloody murder every time a new version of the Iphone comes around? (yearly) Most of the people I see making these kind of complaints, always come across as the worst kind of demanding, whiny, childish little brats. GW owes you nothing.

As for the M X marines. I really like the models and the small amount of fluff we have heard about them. Could open up a range of new and interesting avenues for them to explore.

we knew they were gonna do new marine models eventually anyway, so what other ideas could they have than making them Nu marines this time around... It was gonna happen sometime.

i mean, everyone rips on the Centuion models (which arent that bad when seen in person) and that was GW trying something new.

Im more concerned with how they handle the eistence of Space Marine scouts now. Sure the Guillimarines are hader to come by, but so is the recruitment process of these now second rate Astartes,

I think you need to add 'like the models, but couldn't possibly give a crap about the fluff either way. Let's see the rules before buying.'

 Hollow wrote:


I wonder how these people react when companies release new and upgraded versions of other products they may own. Do they cry when Ford releases a new version of the Mondeo? Do they go running into the dealership screaming "You just invalidated my Mondeo! I literally can't drive it, or look at it again because you have just released a new version" What do they do about mobile phones? Do they scream bloody murder every time a new version of the Iphone comes around? (yearly) Most of the people I see making these kind of complaints, always come across as the worst kind of demanding, whiny, childish little brats. GW owes you nothing.

As for the M X marines. I really like the models and the small amount of fluff we have heard about them. Could open up a range of new and interesting avenues for them to explore.

Down, boy. People aren't concerned that there's a new and improved version of what they already own, they're concerned that their armies might be literally invalidated or unsupported in the future. And if you don't think there's at least a bit of merit to that, ask a Brettonian or Tomb Kings player how they feel about the support their armies are getting.

If you like the fluff for old marines, I don't understand why you don't like the fluff for the new marines.

The are pretty much the same thing, which came to fruition after a 10,000 year project.

I think it is pretty cool to be honest. It really screams A New Hope () for the Imperium in the most dire situation it has seen in 10,000 years, with Guilliman leading a shade of what he used to have numbers wise to try and start reclaiming the Imperium while the rest try to stem the tide.

The situation hasn't been more dire in a long time for the Imperium, and pretty much all non-chaos factions (except probs for the nids)