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Hey Dakka, I've been collecting Khorne for a while now with a lot of minis, and I'm thinking I want to branch out. For a bit I thought about Free People but I'm leaning much more towards the Ironjawz as their models are really cool. Is a stand alone army going to be competent enough, or do I need to add in other destruction factions like Bonesplitterz or Beastclaw Raiders? I'm not a huge fan of the Raiders, figure wise (cool but not my kinda thing) and the cheese doesn't interest me. Bonesplitterz are quite cool though. I know Ironjawz have a lack of range but it's nice thinking about painting only a few models for once, instead of the crazy number of models I had to paint in my Khorne collection.

Cheers in advance

Ironjawz are fine on their own. In particular they get to pay 60 points to give all their non-character units an extra d6 of movement in the hero phase (on top of the d6 given by destruction allegiance). The place where Ironjawz don't compete well is against tournament cheese, which is fine because a well-balanced army isn't going to.

Hey, thanks for the reply. I might pick up the starter set tomorrow then

I agree with everything Ninth stated.

It's pretty easy to collect too... After the Starter box you just need to grab some brutes/another unit of ardboyz and your choice of Megaboss (both do the same thing so really just pick which one seems better) Suddenly you have an Ironfist Battalion and you're ready to Krump some Gitz!

 IronDerp wrote:
It's pretty easy to collect too... After the Starter box you just need to grab some brutes/another unit of ardboyz and your choice of Megaboss (both do the same thing so really just pick which one seems better) Suddenly you have an Ironfist Battalion and you're ready to Krump some Gitz!

Actually they are amongst the 4-5 cheapest armies to more or less complete in AoS:

3x start collecting ironjawz: nets you 3 warchanters, 30 ardboyz, 9 gruntas: 1320pts for 195 euros.

2x weirdnob warbands: nets you 2 weirdnobs, 10 brutes, 10 ardboys: 600pts for 100 euros.

1 megaboss.

For 320 euros you've got 2180pts of ironjawz and trust me those are very good units. Triple warchanter can be downrigh nasty when laying buffs.

For 2k pts the best format using this units is to drop a weirdnob and you'd get:

1 warboss.

3 warchanters.

1 weirdnob

500pts of leaders. (25% solid ratio)

9 gore-gruntas (actually good if you give them a bit of love)

10-2x5 brutes (depends on how many claws you'd like I like MSU them but others swear for 15-men blobs)

2x20 blobs of ardboyz.

Trust me, this list is quite good as long as you don't go versus a triple A list and even then you can have a good fighting chance if it's not a null deployment list and you can charge them soon enough.

Well, my biggest problem is that my brother collects a Retributor Hammer Strikforce Stormcast army, his GF collects a Kurnoth Hunters and Treelord Sylvaneth Army and my mum collects a Tzeentch Daemon army... do I have any chance against these?

I had a quick game last night of Ironjawz vs the Sylvaneth army and I got utterly demolished. These were the lists:

Me:

Leaders
>Megaboss on foot
- Ravager and battle brew
>Warchanter
- Meteoric Hammerblade
Battleline
>10x Ardboyz
>5x Brutes
>5x Brutes
>3x Gruntas
Battalions
> Ironfist

My opponent

Leaders
> Branch Wych
> Treelord Ancient (can't remember what trait and artefacts they had)
Battleline
> 10x Dryads
> 5x Revenants
Other
> 3x Kurnoth Hunters w/ bows
> 3x Kurnoth Hunters w/ bows
Battalions
> Can't remember what it was called, you guys might know from the list

Turn one I moved up pretty far, covering nearly the entire board, which was awesome. Then my opponent killed the Megaboss, a unit of Brutes and hurt the Ardboyz with shooting and spells. I charged turn 2 and killed a few dryads, while the Kurnoths got to re-rol all their saves, and the Treelord was at a 2+ save, re-rolling 1's. He kept stomping and making my dudes -1 to hit, essentially getting rid of my Warchanter's ability.
The Kurnoth's continued to destroy my entire army while I just couldn't get through their re-rollable saves.

By the end I had killed the revenants and dryads and 1 hunter.
Was my list just not good? Or was my opponent using a high tier list?

I'm not mad or anything, it's just getting a bit old haha. The same thing happens to me every game, even as Khorne: I get slaughtered off the table. Until now, I've mostly been facing the Stormcast army, but the Sylvaneth was even crazier! I've played 20+ games, and of those I've only won 2.
Any tips on how to git gud? Haha

Kurnoths are currently one of the most overpowered units in the game. When GHB2 comes out they will get nerfed (evidence is pointing to 220 per 3, up from the current 180) but until then I would recommend just not playing against that army since you simply don't have much of a shot.

As for the stormcast, if he is running hammerstike then he's almost certainly going to get the charge off with the paladins if he has the prosecutors. The nice thing about Ironjawz is that charging and killing a prosecutor unit turn 1 is a viable option (at least until he gets wise and puts them behind other units). If the prosecutor unit is down then the paladins have to drop 9" away like everything else. On the other hand, in the likely scenario that you are going to get charged by the paladins, line up some 'ardboyz in front of your other units. The 'ardboyz will get slaughtered, but that's it, and you can counter-charge with devastating effect.

Something else I can advise is if you have the choice of turn, always take second. Ironjawz main buffs (waaagh and warchanters) are very powerful but only in effect on your turn, meaning that a turn 1-2 double can be devastating for your opponent.

Also remember special rules. A megaboss gets more attacks & wounds if he kills heroes, brutes re-roll 1s to hit if a foot megaboss is nearby or all hit rolls if the target has 4+ wound characteristic, gruntaz get extra damage if they happen to charge something more than 8" away.

Thanks for all the tips and also letting me know how to get them super cheap. I was checking out the start collecting box and the weirdnob box and they're a crazy bargain in AUS. Our stuff is crazy expensive and seeing the start collecting box at literally half the price for the units you get in it is nuts. My dad already had a few models but he doesn't play anymore so I'm snatching them from him, so the rest of the army is only going to cost me $300 to get what would've costed me nearly $1000! Hell yeah!

I've just started assembling my ironjawz army as well after coming from Khorne mortals. For roughly $400 or so I was able to cobble together over 2000 points worth of them through start collecting and the new skirmish box sets.

Went with
-2 Start collecting
-2 Skirmish sets
-1 box of Brutes
-1 Megaboss
-1 Maw-crusher for the lulz

Super simple army to build and I love the models.

Resin Glazed, I totally agree. Epic models that look too satisfying to look away from, really cheap army to buy, seems quite simple to paint too overall (coming from Khorne anyway). I'm super pumped to start painting up the models!

 Tiberius501 wrote:

The Kurnoth's continued to destroy my entire army while I just couldn't get through their re-rollable saves.

Ba

One thing to remember is that the Kurnoth have to put their thicket (the thing that gives them the save reroll) down at the beginning of the charge phase and can't move while its down.

So, if you make them charge you you'll get a turn of combat against them without them having the save reroll.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 IronDerp wrote:
It's pretty easy to collect too... After the Starter box you just need to grab some brutes/another unit of ardboyz and your choice of Megaboss (both do the same thing so really just pick which one seems better) Suddenly you have an Ironfist Battalion and you're ready to Krump some Gitz!

Actually they are amongst the 4-5 cheapest armies to more or less complete in AoS:

3x start collecting ironjawz: nets you 3 warchanters, 30 ardboyz, 9 gruntas: 1320pts for 195 euros.

2x weirdnob warbands: nets you 2 weirdnobs, 10 brutes, 10 ardboys: 600pts for 100 euros.

1 megaboss.

For 320 euros you've got 2180pts of ironjawz and trust me those are very good units. Triple warchanter can be downrigh nasty when laying buffs.

For 2k pts the best format using this units is to drop a weirdnob and you'd get:

1 warboss.

3 warchanters.

1 weirdnob

500pts of leaders. (25% solid ratio)

9 gore-gruntas (actually good if you give them a bit of love)

10-2x5 brutes (depends on how many claws you'd like I like MSU them but others swear for 15-men blobs)

2x20 blobs of ardboyz.

Trust me, this list is quite good as long as you don't go versus a triple A list and even then you can have a good fighting chance if it's not a null deployment list and you can charge them soon enough.

Very nice list there, Kragan. I have a buddy thinking about getting into the game as Ironjaws. I'll have to send him a link to this thread.

If you should be lucky enough to find an Ironjawz Thunderfist box, then that is very worthwhile. It's out of production now, but it was an Ironjawz armybox they made last year before xmas.
It has 2xBrutes, 1xGore Gruntas, 1xMegaboss, 1xWeirdnob and 1xGargant at a very favourable discounted price.

Maybe it could be sitting on a shelf at some store, or you could catch one on ebay or something. :-)