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2017/06/16 18:59:34
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
I had noticed this on the model when I was assembling it, but remembered it today when I was painting it. I was wondering if anyone that knows more of the lore that could identify the meaning behind the "V" on his armor.
Thanks.
2017/06/16 19:08:15
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
V as the 5th Legion? As in the White Scars? Jaghatai Khan next Primarch?
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2017/06/16 21:49:18
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
The "Y" is obviously for "Yee yee!" Rowboat is clearly a redneck. That's why his "truck" (aka his armor) has all that bling on it. It is all just the 40k Primarch way of painting sweet tribal decals, a Confederate flag and badass flames on the hood.
2017/06/17 09:16:42
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
Sanguinius' return is confirmed, likely with a fair few mechanicus augmentations and he will be fighting Tau during his returning story. This is just what the Dark Imperium needed.
Also that Guilliman is a filthy xeno sympathiser and this is by no means propaganda proposed by the current high lords that may stand to lose power with his return, nor that whole hidden civil war thing currently going on about his proposed changes to the calendar.
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2017/06/17 22:58:53
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
Verviedi wrote: Yvraine. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler having a picture of their crush in their wallet.
This fits very nicely with the fact that he's got his own name written on his shoulder pad.
It's in case he gets lost somewhere and the authorities have to take him home.
clearly you're unfamiler with the concept of Hereldry.
Doesn't most heraldry feature the coat of arms and motto of the house, rather than the name of the house? And if it were to have the name of the "house", shouldn't it be Ultramarines rather than Guilliman in this case?
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2017/06/18 09:08:52
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
Verviedi wrote: Yvraine. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler having a picture of their crush in their wallet.
This fits very nicely with the fact that he's got his own name written on his shoulder pad.
It's in case he gets lost somewhere and the authorities have to take him home.
clearly you're unfamiler with the concept of Hereldry.
Doesn't most heraldry feature the coat of arms and motto of the house, rather than the name of the house? And if it were to have the name of the "house", shouldn't it be Ultramarines rather than Guilliman in this case?
I did google and there is a tradition of heraldry with a heraldic coat of arms and your house/noble family's surname on a banned underneath, so there is historical precedent and I can see what they were aiming for.
I suppose it just looks silly because it's so blatantly obvious that it's Guilliman that no-one in the history of ever is going to need to be told it. He's a 15ft tall dude with aryan looks and bright blue armour festooned with 'U' symbols. I suppose it'd be useful to read 'not a daemon prince' given the sheer amount of Tzeentchian runework on his armour too, although depending on the emperor's actual methods of creating them that might not be wholly accurate...
Verviedi wrote: Yvraine. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler having a picture of their crush in their wallet.
This fits very nicely with the fact that he's got his own name written on his shoulder pad.
It's in case he gets lost somewhere and the authorities have to take him home.
clearly you're unfamiler with the concept of Hereldry.
Doesn't most heraldry feature the coat of arms and motto of the house, rather than the name of the house? And if it were to have the name of the "house", shouldn't it be Ultramarines rather than Guilliman in this case?
It depends on the tradition. In many traditions, heraldry doesn't just 'advertise' the family, but also the individual. Every member of the family will have his own coat of arms. Not all traditions of heraldry feature mottos. Names of houses or individuals (and mottos, if appropriate to the tradition) are usually included as part of a larger heraldic device in books or lists of heraldry, where they are usually featured on a roll as part of the heraldic device (together with the coat of arms, crests, a helm or crown to indicate status, supporters etc.), or simply inscribed underneath the heraldic device. They are not included in the coat of arms itself. In 40k, Space Marines often have the name of their Chapter or that of the Marine bearing the arms on a roll underneath or across the coat of arms, no doubt inspired by historical books of heraldry. Guilliman's name on his shoulder pad therefore fits in really nicely with the established Space Marine tradition of heraldry. It is nice to see that GW keeps such details in mind.
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2017/06/18 10:17:21
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?
Verviedi wrote: Yvraine. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler having a picture of their crush in their wallet.
This fits very nicely with the fact that he's got his own name written on his shoulder pad.
It's in case he gets lost somewhere and the authorities have to take him home.
clearly you're unfamiler with the concept of Hereldry.
Doesn't most heraldry feature the coat of arms and motto of the house, rather than the name of the house? And if it were to have the name of the "house", shouldn't it be Ultramarines rather than Guilliman in this case?
It depends on the tradition. In many traditions, heraldry doesn't just 'advertise' the family, but also the individual. Every member of the family will have his own coat of arms. Not all traditions of heraldry feature mottos.
Names of houses or individuals (and mottos, if appropriate to the tradition) are usually included as part of a larger heraldic device in books or lists of heraldry, where they are usually featured as on a roll as part of the heraldic device (together with the coat of arms, crests, a helm or crown to indicate status, supporters etc.), or simply inscribed underneath the heraldic device. They are not included in the coat of arms itself.
In 40k, Space Marines often have the name of their Chapter or that of the Marine bearing the arms on a roll underneath the coat of arms, as in historical books of heraldry. Guilliman's name on his shoulder pad therefore fits in really nicely with the established Space Marine tradition of heraldry. It is nice to see that GW keeps such details in mind.
this, Gulliman's armor is perfectly suting what we know of Ultramarines hereldric (and likely Macraggian before them) tradtions
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2017/06/18 10:29:59
Subject: What does the "V" on Guilliman's new armor stand for?