8th edition day 1 FAQ

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**Galas**

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

Here you have it.

A nice one for people that said that cover is useless for hordes:

Q: When determining whether a model benefits from
cover, does the model’s entire unit need to be fully on
or within terrain, or just the model making a particular
saving throw?
A: All of the models in a unit need to be at least partially
on or within terrain if any of the models are to receive
the +1 bonus to their saving throw.
Note, however, that it is possible for a unit to gain the benefit
of cover as it suffers casualties during the Shooting phase by
removing those models that are not on, or within terrain. As
soon as the last model that was not on or within terrain is
slain, the rest of the unit immediately starts to receive the benefit
of cover.

You know! Put your sargeants and heavy weapons guys in cover first! Let the unnamed grunts die first for the team!

EDIT:

This is very usefull:

Q: Can you declare charges against units that are not
visible to the charging unit?
A: Yes.
Note however that the unit being charged still obeys the
normal rules for targeting when it fires Overwatch, and so,
if a model cannot see the charging unit, it will not be able to
fire Overwatch

**Crazy Jay**

Q. Can I use the Command Re-roll Stratagem to re-roll a dice roll made by my opponent?
A. No.

Puts that ridiculous argument to bed

**MaxT**

No errata, just FAQs. Puts that point changes bs rumour to bed.

**Trickstick**

Well, time to jump aboard this "reroll before modifier" train. Sounds weird to me but that is how the game is supposed to work.

Atsknf will be argued over though. I think that the "adding number of casualties" for moral tests is not actually a modifier, it is working out the target number. If you count it as a modifier then atsknf doesn't work at all.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

MaxT wrote:
No errata, just FAQs. Puts that point changes bs rumour to bed.

Not really, as that would be in the Index FAQs anyway. This is really just a main rule FAQ.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Galas wrote:

EDIT:

This is very usefull:

Q: Can you declare charges against units that are not
visible to the charging unit?
A: Yes.
Note however that the unit being charged still obeys the
normal rules for targeting when it fires Overwatch, and so,
if a model cannot see the charging unit, it will not be able to
fire Overwatch

My friend loves to abuse the fact that his ruler is wavy and bendy and nothing in the rulebook before said anything about a "straight line". Now he might actually use it for tactical advantage.

**Voss**

Can't say I like the 'apply rerolls before modifiers' and 'modifiers can trigger results of rolling a 1'.

That's just plain unintuitive.

But it does put a lot of nonsense to bed in other areas.

**Trickstick**

Voss wrote:
Can't say I like the 'apply rerolls before modifiers' and 'modifiers can trigger results of rolling a 1'.

That's just plain unintuitive

It does make sense from a balance perspective. Rerolls have been really powerful for a long time. If this order of operations was in previous editions, things like 2++ reroll saves would not have been as bad (that was a modifier thing right? I can't remember the specifics).

**MechaEmperor7000**

Think it was a modifier. You get a 4+ save (through Fortune or some jazz) that gets buffed by +2 and the Tzeentch Daemon rule giving you the reroll.

**Galas**

Q: Can a Battle-forged army ever have fewer than 0
Command Points?
A: No.
Regardless of how many Auxiliary Support Detachments
you take, you can never start a battle with fewer than 0
Command Points.

Another stupid argument put to bed

**Davor**

Are these really Day One FAQs or just Designer notes? I don't think they are really FAQs but giving us an understanding what the designers were thinking.

I am not saying because it's not an FAQ they can't be viewed like was mentioned but don't think it correct in saying they are FAQs.

**MechaEmperor7000**

I feel bad for the FAQ writers. Most of the document is basically "no you ass that's not what we meant, read english like a normal person!"

**MaxT**

What exactly a FAQ is, is a matter of debate anyway. IMO clarifying a rule as it is written is a FAQ, changing the nature of a rule (or points changes) is an errata. But that's just me. Other peeps may think differently

**Galas**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I feel bad for the FAQ writers. Most of the document is basically "no you ass that's not what we meant, read english like a normal person!"

Like the final ones about the keywords

I have to say it. I have never encouter people so willing to force and broke a rulebook as Wargamer players! RAW and RAI are things that I have never encountered in other types of games!

**MechaEmperor7000**

At least it's on the internet. I once had to deal with someone who tried arguing that "fat" was an inherently ugly trait.

To the man that made Little Mermaid.

I have never seen an old man lay down such a verbal smackdown. Nor did I expect a Disney exec of such age to know so many devastating swear words.

**ross-128**

Hmm, looks like transports don't actually reduce your deployment footprint either. You have to spend one of your deployment turns putting the unit in the transport.

Also, looks like if a charging unit uses pile-in to dodge overwatch, they have to wait one turn before they can actually attack the unit they piled-in to. In which case, I guess the free round of melee attacks you get to make against them (or the opportunity to disengage without a scratch) would be just as good as overwatch, so that technique is not as scary as it sounded at first.

Consolidation is still potentially scary though, because consolidation doesn't necessarily happen the same turn that they charged, and if they didn't charge that turn, then they can fight whoever they consolidated into.

**Captyn_Bob**

It specifically says units in transports don't count as a separate choice.

**Aaranis**

Captyn_Bob wrote:
It specifically says units in transports don't count as a separate choice.

Nice, Mechanicus is getting screwed again, guess we'll have to learn to play second all the time. Or spend a CP rerolling our Initiative roll.

Really disgusted by the Plasma overheat with modifiers, this makes NO sense. Could've been a flat one on the dice like Overwatch works, with no modifiers involved.

My army have no way to add bonuses to hit except for rerolls fortunately.

Wasn't there a talk somewhere about an errata coming on day one too ?

**vipoid**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
At least it's on the internet. I once had to deal with someone who tried arguing that "fat" was an inherently ugly trait.

Do you really think they were wrong?

**ross-128**

Aaranis wrote:
Captyn_Bob wrote:
It specifically says units in transports don't count as a separate choice.

Nice, Mechanicus is getting screwed again, guess we'll have to learn to play second all the time. Or spend a CP rerolling our Initiative roll.

Really disgusted by the Plasma overheat with modifiers, this makes NO sense. Could've been a flat one on the dice like Overwatch works, with no modifiers involved.

My army have no way to add bonuses to hit except for rerolls fortunately.

Wasn't there a talk somewhere about an errata coming on day one too ?

Huh, that thing about bonuses is a good point.

Have +1 to hit, never fail a Gets Hot roll (it'll always be at least 2 after modifiers).

Quick, we need to figure out the cheapest way to put a +1 to hit on a plasma weapon!

**MechaEmperor7000**

vipoid wrote:
MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
At least it's on the internet. I once had to deal with someone who tried arguing that "fat" was an inherently ugly trait.

Do you really think they were wrong?

Loaded question bro. But you're free to think whatever you like.

**vipoid**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Loaded question bro. But you're free to think whatever you like.

It wasn't a loaded question, merely one which included a measure of surprise at the answer your post suggested.

**Trickstick**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
vipoid wrote:
MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
At least it's on the internet. I once had to deal with someone who tried arguing that "fat" was an inherently ugly trait.

Do you really think they were wrong?

Loaded question bro. But you're free to think whatever you like.

Now this is a line of conversation heading straight towards a rule #1 violation...

**MechaEmperor7000**

Yup, hence why we should stop it riiiiight here. Not to mention it is off topic since it's only part of an anecdote where I saw someone get verbally torn a new one by an old Disney Head.

**vipoid**

Very well.

Back on topic then:

Has there been any mention of the nerf to Conscripts that the Day 1 faq was rumoured to contain?

I wondered if they might be releasing separate faqs for the factions or something.

Or was that rumour just nonsense?

**BrianDavion**

vipoid wrote:
Very well.

Back on topic then:

Has there been any mention of the nerf to Conscripts that the Day 1 faq was rumoured to contain?

I wondered if they might be releasing separate faqs for the factions or something.

Or was that rumour just nonsense?

proably just nonsense, a wish listing more then anything else, BTW has GW said if we should use the points costs in the indexes or the mini dexes for primaris and death guard?

**Trickstick**

vipoid wrote:
Has there been any mention of the nerf to Conscripts that the Day 1 faq was rumoured to contain?

Well there were some hints about it in a Frontline Gaming Batrep, although not about the conscripts directly. In this batrep, at 2:50, there were hints that Scion command squads were going to be limited in number. That was the second rumour that appeared in the initial "conscript point" rumour post. Now, you will have to decide for yourself if evidence for one part of a rumour lends credibility to a different rumour from the same source.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Technically this isn't even a FAQ, just Dev Commentary.

I'd suspect that we'll see organized FAQs coming out in the next month or so, when they can gather some play data, more questions, and organize them into proper indexes and factions.

**BoomWolf**

Galas wrote:
Q: Can a Battle-forged army ever have fewer than 0
Command Points?
A: No.
Regardless of how many Auxiliary Support Detachments
you take, you can never start a battle with fewer than 0
Command Points.

Another stupid argument put to bed

Wat arguemnt exactly?
Assuming one had "less than 0 command points", what would that even MEAN? they need to use that many reverse stratagems during the game?

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I feel bad for the FAQ writers. Most of the document is basically "no you ass that's not what we meant, read english like a normal person!"

Well, we had plenty of these back in 7th when there actually WERE messed up rules, and people still managed to tangle up the most obvious dumb things.

**Trickstick**

BoomWolf wrote:
...people still managed to tangle up the most obvious dumb things.

But how can you draw line of sight if the model doesn't have eyes!?

**Galas**

BoomWolf wrote:
Galas wrote:
Q: Can a Battle-forged army ever have fewer than 0
Command Points?
A: No.
Regardless of how many Auxiliary Support Detachments
you take, you can never start a battle with fewer than 0
Command Points.

Another stupid argument put to bed

Wat arguemnt exactly?
Assuming one had "less than 0 command points", what would that even MEAN? they need to use that many reverse stratagems during the game?

I have seen people arguee about that

"But what if negative Command Points gives your opponent more command points?!"