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Can a unit inside a transport disembark if that transport is in combat at the start of the turn? Do they count as falling back if they do? I can't find anything speaking to this...

Also, on the topic of transports... I keep reading that people use their transport as an overwatch shield? But the rules as I read them mean you declare all charges and resolve all overwatches before moving any chargers. So how do the transports act as an overwatch shield?

The steps listed state "choose unit to charge with" so you go 1-4 with each unit individually.

Why wouldn't you be able to? The models inside the vehicle aren't in combat. They basically don't exist for rules purposes until they get out.

The models in the vehicle aren't in combat, so they aren't restricted in how they can move. So yes, you can crash your vehicle in to a unit, then disembark the next turn.

Good to know! I don't know why I thought disembarking was in question, it just seems odd to me.

ERJAK wrote:
The steps listed state "choose unit to charge with" so you go 1-4 with each unit individually.

The way I re-re-read that is all units do 1, then all units do 2, and so on.

Re-re-re-re-reading it I guess going in sequence per unit makes sense again... I really wish GW would spell stuff like that out though, rather than just relying on the plural form (or lack thereof) in a section header. Maybe I'm just dumb.

It is spelled out.

Step 1 is Choose Unit (singular) to Charge With
Step 4 ends with choosing another eligible unit and repeating the above procedure. (Above being steps 1-4).

All units do 1 then all units do 2, and so on...doesn't really function, and would be a mess if it did. You'd need all sorts of reminders or tokens to keep it clear who's charging who and who is and has overwatched at what.

Pick unit, resolve everything, repeat is a lot more functional.

The vehicle i used to block los. You cannot shoot overwatch at a unit you cannot see.

Voss wrote:

Step 4 ends with choosing another eligible unit and repeating the above procedure. (Above being steps 1-4).

You added something in parenthesis... to clarify... because the book isn't spelling it out

 Deathypoo wrote:

Voss wrote:

Step 4 ends with choosing another eligible unit and repeating the above procedure. (Above being steps 1-4).

You added something in parenthesis... to clarify... because the book isn't spelling it out

No, I added it because I left out the rest of the paragraph, so I provided the context I was clipping.

My point was even without the context, the references to 'single unit' or the repetition of the procedure, doing it any other way simply doesn't function.

Step 3 has to follow Step 2 (and indeed says 'immediately'). There is no point for X number of units to declare charge targets and then Y number of targets make overwatch, or be unable to make overwatch shots if they're engaged. Each charge target has to immediately fire at the unit performing a charge.

Regardless, it starts with Unit and ends with choose another eligible unit. I'm unclear about how it could be unclear- pick unit, pick target(s), fire overwatch; happens bang, bang, bang- half the text of step 2 literally references Step 1 and Step 3. After all that, you move that unit and repeat.