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The Hague (NL)

Hi Guys,

I've been wanting to do a small elite imperial force led by an Inquisitor for a long time. An Ordo Hereticus witch hunter who has the aid of a small group of elite imperial forces. It has to be a lore-proof thing. This inquisitor goes from mission to mission to expunge the heretic which is, well, basically anyone she suspects. Kill first, ask questions later. Exterminatus if you have to.

I've always played Eldar/DE/Harlequins and was pretty much blown away by the sheer amount of lore there is on the imperium. All the different administrations and the hierarchy make my head spin.

So I need your help to point me in the right direction as to what would make sense to have alongside an Inquisitor and what wouldn't. I'm aware that Inquisitors are capable of demanding aid from anyone, but I've also read that it might not be the smartest move to demand anything from all the Astartes for example.

I was thinking of starting with an Inquisitor (converted from the Greyfax model) and a Culexus Assassin (fits the elite imperial operative, witch hunting theme pretty well) but from there I'm at a loss.

I was thinking Tempestus Scions. Sisters of Battle would make the most sense but since their models are 30 yrs old and metal, they're out. If I get the Triumvirate box, Celestine could be added eventually when they release plastic Sisters (lol).

Thanks!
   
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An Inquisitorial army is a good way to have lots of fluff and a valid ingame reason for whatever opponent you may have. It can be difficult for Imperial forces to justify battles with one another but with an added Inquisitor this problem goes away. As with anything in 40k rule of cool applies. Use whatever you find to be the most intresting/fun/cool looking armies. Inquisitors work with every other Imperial army, like you mentioned above. They're the single most powerfull organisation when it comes to their rights, only really rivalled by the rouge traders.

You mentioned a culexus assasin and an Inquisitor for starters. Theese are very thematic units since Inquisitors often employ assasins. Next up I'd suggest Inquisitorial Acolytes. Most Inquisitors have a band of retainers and so building a small unit of various dudes can be great fun for model specific personalisation and to symbolise the Inquisitors power. Acolytes are pretty strong units now with their 2W stats as well. I'd recommend looking into the rules for theese guys in the index Imperium 2 book.

Next for the meat of the army. The Inquisition has the oldest allies rules in the game. Back in 3ed they where the only force allowed to use allies. The three big orders used to have a military branch working for them. Theese where Grey knights for the Ordo Malleus, deathwatch for the Ordo xenos and sisters of battle for the ordo hereticus. The current fluff has changed this into them being seperate organisations though. All through the Inquisitions history they've been allowed the choice of "Inquisitorial storm troopers" (renamed militarum temptestus) which, lore wise, are trained by the schola progetium for Inquisitorial service but also supply the Imperial guard with their non-top students. This too has been changed so that the Militarum temptestus is now its own organisation.

So there you have a brief history of the Inquisition and its forces. The Militarum temptestus have their plastic models now. You could easily field them as an Inquisitors private army. I'd suggest looking over the minor organisations in the second Imperium index book. The psykers and the guards auxilias would make great units to add to the Inquisition. You could even have a guard unit that's the Inquisitors private army, or a few Space marines serving the Inquisitor as part of some long standing oath. If you want to go full radical you could add some traitor marines that's neither chaos nor imperials but stick with the Inquisitor, or some Tyranids that have brain implants controlling them, or even deamons that the Inquisitor has bound to his will. With the Inquisition the possibilities are endless.

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If you want a small elite force that runs with an Inquisitor, DW might be your go to army as they are often led by an Inquisitor plus it gives you a variety of marines to run . I have an Inquisitor model that I use often as my HQ just for the fluff purpose.

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right behind you

A primaris psyker from index imperium 2 in astra telepathica and have him be the the inquisitors psyker, an astropath could also be put in as the inquisitors personal one

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Black Templars may be an interesting addition. OTOH, the Inquisition is suspicious of them as a non-compliant Chapter. OTOH, they are damn near Emperor-worshipers and hate witches as much as the most severe Inquisitorial puritan.

   
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left




The Hague (NL)

Thank you all for your replies, especially Nerak for that awesome bit on the Inquisition. Your responses have helped solidify this idea in my head. I read more about Inquisitors, why they have retinues (often with the weirdest of creatures: but I get that now).

Happy I bought those Tempestus Scions, good to hear they're actually tied into the Inq from a fluff perspective.
The personal army idea, I love it. That would explain the inq always having the same small elite army instead of having to obtain a new one on every planet she visits.

Wow this is going to be great.

I bought some Scions and the Culexus. The Greyfax box was sold out so I'll get that later.
Now to just convince myself to convert the Greyfax model into something unique without that stifling fear of ruining it. Anyone got any ideas? Saw a nice conversion using a Skitarii ranger head.
Love the astropath and sanctioned psyker ideas as well.

Thanks!
   
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 Mayk0l wrote:

Now to just convince myself to convert the Greyfax model into something unique without that stifling fear of ruining it. Anyone got any ideas? Saw a nice conversion using a Skitarii ranger head.


A Statuesque minis narrow heroic headswap is a good start. I also replaced that skull pauldron with an Anvil gothic shoulder pad.
   
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left




The Hague (NL)

Yeah a head swap sounds like a good idea

Now to find a really gritty, grimdark, realistic painting scheme.
   
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I always run my Inquisitor alongside Scions. Scions look real mean when painted in Inquisition colors.

I'm also looking to get a unit of Ogryns to serve as my Inquisitor's "Henchmen."



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Glad to be of help

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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. 
   
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I think the first choice you need to make is if your Inquisitor is a puritan or a radical and let that inform your later choices. The Eishenhorn books are great for insight into this (and Eisenhorn has a pretty wicked fight with a witch hunter on a Shrine World in one of them), as is the classic Inquisitor sourcebook if you can get it.

For me the the classic Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor is a stoic Puritan teetering of zealousness in his/her hatred and intolerance for deviance from the Imperial Creed.

I wouldn't use any psykers because those are the things he/she detests (they are a "witch" hunter after all), I also wouldn't use any abhumans.

The Culexus is a great choice being anathema to psykers. It could be cool to expand that pariah theme and include some Sisters of Silence.

After that I would look for Adeptus Ministorum units to use. Priests, missionaries, Sororitas etc Theming your acolytes to be of the Redemption Cult would be cool too. As mentioned above, Black Templars make the best thematically suited Astartes allies.

The Inquisition is a great project to make your own however, and although there is a typical witch hunter trope in the background it could be cool to go against that. I guess a radical Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor is one who uses psykers to fight psykers, or looks for pariahs and anti-psyker technology from Xenos or Chaos to employ. On the other hand they could also be incredibly clean cut and not display any of the fanaticism you'd normally expect.

Basically, do whatever you want and come up with a cool backstory to tie it all together :-)

Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) 
   
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This kinda fits into my current project too. Rather than Ordo Hereticus I am going Ordo Xenos. My Inquisitor is going to be accompanied by three veteran guard squads. Each will be different to give that individual feel of the inquisitor picking up units for his personal army from all over the place. 1st lot are my mercs, 2nd squad will be Squats (converted Kharadon Overlords) and 3rd squad will be based on the Forge World tech thralls. I'm also currently messing about with some Deathwatch too (New Primaris marines make for some good true scale marines). Legal armies are not something that my gaming group really care about, its all about the story and models. But from what I understand anything in 8th edition with the keyword Imperium can be taken in a force org chart anyway.

So for Ordo Hereticus you could use a lot of eccliesiarchy elements. Fanatics (conscript squad), Militant Fanatics eg veteran guard unit (eg made of empire flagellants and genestealer cult shotgun arms). Crusaders and arco flagellants. Sisters of Battle could be added when GW release them (that imo cannot be that far out because they sculpted Celestine and co). But while waiting for them you could get some Inquisitorial Storm Troopers to accompany her. Lots of priests.

I disagree with Bottle about not using psykers and her not being a psyker. From reading some of the Dark Heresy books psychic inquisitors of the monodominant philosophy are some of the most hard line because they know the dangers of the psyker first hand. Even monodominant Inquisitors use sanctioned pskyers and navigators etc. though they might despise them. They wouldn't tolerate a witch/sorcerer/unsanctioned psyker though.

Elements of the Adepts Astra Telepathica Blackships could also make an appearance in your army, squad of witch killers from the Sister's of Silence.

   
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You sound like a heretic through and through PDH

Just kidding, you make some good points!

Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) 
   
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Inquisitors are often accompanied by a personal retinue. This can consist of pretty much anything you like.

For Ordo Hereticus, I suggest taking units that fit in a witch-hunting theme and have a bit of a medieval look to them. Take a look at the Inquisition model range. Crusaders, priests and acolytes are just perfect.
Furthermore, an Inquisitor likely will have a bodyguard of elite soldiers. I would use Tempestus Scions or heavily converted Guard veterans for this. Take a look at some of the WHFB/AoS miniatures for bits to really get that medieval witch-hunting look. Also perfect to create a horde of religious zealots that assist the Inquisitor in burning witches.
Also, some of the more radical Inquisitors can have companions that border on the heretical, such as xenos or daemonhosts.

Basically, there are few limitations when it comes to the Inquisition.

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 Manchu wrote:
Black Templars may be an interesting addition. OTOH, the Inquisition is suspicious of them as a non-compliant Chapter. OTOH, they are damn near Emperor-worshipers and hate witches as much as the most severe Inquisitorial puritan.


Yeah. A Puritan may overlook whole codex issue to have backing of a 7-8 foot zelous crusader or if very lucky, the support of a Templer crusade. who loves to kill witches much as next Puritan.
Also sisters make a strong contender for a puritan to employ..

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Bottle - I do like to dabble in the Xanthite philosophy. Doesn't make me a heretic for I have the support of the Conclave
   
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left




The Hague (NL)

Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate them.

There's still one thing I don't understand about Inquisitors. They are amongst the most powerful individuals in the Imperium, absolute authorities that are above the law.
However, they are often surrounded by 'low profile' followers as fanatics and priests. I don't really understand this. Why would such an absolute authority travel with such 'rabble'. Wouldn't they cherry pick the most elite of the elite for their missions?
I can't see an Inquisitor working together with a culexus assassin to take out a renegade psyker, then at the same time being followed by an angry pitchfork mob.

Can anyone explain?
   
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You gotta have faith!

I think this stems from Inquisitors actually investigating the heresy and trying to stop it before it becomes all out war. Inquisitors have been shoehorned into 40k the game. I highly recommend reading the Dark Heresy, Inquisitor rule book, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Carrion Throne books to get an idea about Inquisitors. While an Inquisitor may be able to call upon the armies of the Imperium or a planetary defence force.... what if he is on a planet where he cannot trust that the local governor, what's to say the governor isn't actually the arch heretic or that the guard commander isn't enslaved to a xenos race? This is where his band of useful retainers come into play.

If an Inquisitor is going to be burning witches it makes sense for him to have an orator and an ordained priest to fire the blood lust of the crowd. For the Inquisitor might be a more frightening figure in the shadows. He might have loyal followers planted in the crowd to crow or cheer at the right time for better effect. Part of the Inquisitions task is to keep the population in line through fear. But while the Inquisitor and priests burn the heretics etc fanatics may attach themselves to the priest and follow him round, a mini crusade. Faith is one of the most powerful tools at an Inquisitors disposal. The mob of fanatics will think nothing of hopelessly charging the enemy if an Inquisitor orders it. They all die well never mind there are a billion more where they came from.

He may have a lone arbite in his cell for when he is investigating the Adeptus Arbites. The arbite will be more of an expert than the Inquisitor on the day to day activities of a court house.

A desperado or ganger would fit in better in the down hive bar than a tech priest.

A space marine would frighten any heretic off and cause a stir through the whole city. An Imperial citizen is highly unlikely to ever meet a space marine. A guardsman might be lucky to see a glimpse of a space marine.

Perhaps on his travels he discovers a pariah, who happens to be a kitchen porter and recruits him. In a daemonic incursion who is the better tool...the kitchen porter or a storm troopers?

A squad of Storm Troopers casing/staking out a suspected safe house would be easier to spot than a mutant beggar in a door way across the way. The mutant may be taken in by the heretics as one of their own, only later they find out he is loyal to the God Emperor as a squad locally acquired enforcers kick in the door. Besides the mutant is expendable anyway.

All his retinue are tools, some more expendable than others.

Another reason that an Inquisitor wouldn't necessarily be able to call upon the best of the best eg a squad of Deathwatch or Inquisitorial Storm Troopers is because they are an not an infinite resource. There may not be any close by, it might take 3 months or years for them to arrive via space travel, if ever. An Inquisitor needs to petition the Deathwatch for aid because they are much sought after by a 100 different inquisitors. Another Inquisitor might have more political might. Another may have a much more pressing threat but not the backing of other Inquisitors etc etc.

Wow I have rambled on. Hope it makes sense.
   
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The Hague (NL)

That actually makes a lot of sense. I think I was considering them too much in that situation where the enemy was known and had to be taken out, instead of the situation where an inquisitor lands on a planet and has no idea who to trust and who to target.
The latter is more difficult to adapt to 40k than the former, though (I guess that's why they made the Inquisitor game I always wanted to play but never got around to.)
An intermediate would work nice in 40k. Inquisitor and trusted retinue in a bigger army.

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If you're interested in the Inquisitor game side of things then you want to take a visit to my favourite forum http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/forum/3012278/
   
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Thanks
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