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2017/07/22 19:58:58
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Last night I played a 2000 pt game where I faced 2 stormravens and a knight (+ 3 H2H assassins and some GK with Draigo). Not WAAC but definitely competitive.
I was testing the viability of inceptors and a captain (not that great for the points). I also had 2 stormtalon gunships, 3 almost-fully-manned las devastator squads and Bubba G.
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I realized my devs had to withstand an alpha strike. I was thinking about taking the Firestorm redoubt. For 300 points you get 2xquad icarus las, 20 wounds at T8 and 3+ save, plus it can shoot in combat (as can units inside).
Deploy 3 las dev squads in there and they will live to see turn 2.
Thoughts?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/22 20:03:54
-three orange whips |
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2017/07/22 21:39:19
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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try it out. Ive looked into the Firestorm as well. Don't like the BS 5+ though but a character with rerolls might help.
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2017/07/22 21:57:32
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Damsel of the Lady
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If you're Imperium, jam a Vindicare in there. When he's not sniping characters he can fire las.
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2017/07/22 22:26:05
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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I believe that you can only deploy one infantry squad inside a fortification, plus any number of infantry characters. For that reason it might be better to use imperial bunkers instead.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/22 22:26:36
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2017/07/22 23:03:06
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Damsel of the Lady
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So Vindicares count as Characters. I'm not sure if that was directed at me, but if it was you can totally put one with the Devastators.
EDIT: Actually, I see some saying the unit doesn't effect the BS of the fort, which is laaaame.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/22 23:14:49
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2017/07/23 00:38:27
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1 char + 1 infantry unit after all. And it hits on 5's, you are correct.
Well, there's a theory squashed. It hits like orks, except 4's on flyers.
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-three orange whips |
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2017/07/23 01:42:31
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Damsel of the Lady
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And actually still hits at 5+ against fliers with Hard to Hit because they still apply the -1 which negates the +1.
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2017/07/23 15:20:45
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Slaanesh Havoc with Blastmaster
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Isnt the -1 to hit flyers only when they are supersonic?
If they hover then you get to hit on a 4+?
Makes the firebase more reasonable for my Orks
('cause 5+ is normal for us)
as I may be able to swarm the table so he has to hover
and hence hit on 4+
also, does the +1 vs flyers work vs all those jump packs and flying daemons?...
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2017/07/23 20:09:44
Subject: Fortifications as a counter to stormravens and superheavies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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NOLA Chris wrote:Isnt the -1 to hit flyers only when they are supersonic?
If they hover then you get to hit on a 4+?
Makes the firebase more reasonable for my Orks
('cause 5+ is normal for us)
as I may be able to swarm the table so he has to hover
and hence hit on 4+
also, does the +1 vs flyers work vs all those jump packs and flying daemons?...
+1 vs units that can FLY (keyword).
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-three orange whips |
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