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2017/08/15 23:35:19
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
I've seen the Salamanders painted in lots of different ways, but typically the big dividing line is they're either a rich/vibrant green (i.e. Warpstone Glow) or some sort of olive drab. Which of these do you all prefer?
2017/08/15 23:38:38
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
Depends on the overall feel I'd want? I have painted some before using the bright green up to near yellow highlights and washed back down with green and it looks good but if you want a more realistic, 'dirty' feel then i'd go olive for sure.
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2017/08/15 23:39:30
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
Outside of a few bright energy accents and the like I prefer when all the colors are darker, murkier, more grimey. The setting is grimdark. It's best when the colors accentuate that.
That doesn't mean olive BTW. It just means don't make it cartoony green.
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2017/08/16 00:04:24
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
I started painting my scions in olive drab, and I got to tell you, it just gets really boring looking. I guess it'd be fine if I was playing bolt action, but I've decided drab colors just aren't as much fun on the table top.
I'm switching them to a more vibrant set of colors in the next batch. Same with my normal guard.
2017/08/16 02:56:35
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
I am a fan of the grimdark over noblebright myself, but you could always do a test batch of slightly brighter green, see how it turns out and then wash them in brown/black if you need to darken them.
2017/08/16 04:02:31
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
As Baconcatbug said, once you go black, you can't go back
Try a brigther tone first, and then make it darker step by step until you reach the tone that you like.
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2017/08/16 04:04:02
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
I mean, it could be as simple as basecoating white as opposed to black. If you wanted to go full SCIENCE! you could try spraying 3 of the same model White, Grey and Black, build up the green and see how each turns out.
2017/08/16 04:07:57
Subject: Re:Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
Vibrant green, definitely. Olive salamanders make me sad.
The bright coloration of the Space Marines is inspired by heraldric knights. The intent isn't to blend into the battlefield but to stand out, to attract attention to yourself. It focuses the attention of the enemy away from the squishier support elements (like your Guardsmen) and onto the most resilient part of your army.
The bright green fits in much better with that concept than the olive drab.
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Jimsolo wrote: Vibrant green, definitely. Olive salamanders make me sad.
The bright coloration of the Space Marines is inspired by heraldric knights. The intent isn't to blend into the battlefield but to stand out, to attract attention to yourself. It focuses the attention of the enemy away from the squishier support elements (like your Guardsmen) and onto the most resilient part of your army.
The bright green fits in much better with that concept than the olive drab.
It shows you have faith in your armor and The Emperor to protect you. To wear Camo is cowardly.
2017/08/16 14:26:48
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
It depends, but I err on the sight of a bright, 'Emerald' green - which is particularly nice when blended into dark shadows and vibrant highlights. I tend to go middle-of-the-road with Warpstone glow:
It depends some on how much red accent you've got going for them. Without the red you'll want a brighter green to contrast with the black (as in AduroT's picture), but if you're going to work spot red in (flames, purity seals, weapon accents...) the green needs to be darker so it complements the detail rather than fighting with it and burning our eyes out (done well in Warpig1815's picture).
That said Salamanders should never be full-on olive drab. If you find yourself looking at your paint wondering if it's greenish brown or brownish green it doesn't belong on a Salamander, it belongs on a Raptor.
I went OG on my marines and it seemed like a great idea until I noticed how much it looked like all the new Death Guard armies that are on the table now.
Definitely would go with vibrant green if I had the choice.
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The problem with dark green Salamanders is that their heraldry isn't just green, it's black and green. Dark green and black just sort of blend together, and you're left only with the gold to stand out.
For 40k, I prefer a green that's not so bright as they paint them nowadays, I seem to remember the Salamanders around the time of Codex: Armageddon being more toned down, and that's when I first had Salamanders catch my eye.
30k, not quite what I think of as OD, but definitely a darker and less saturated green.
But there are times I am tempted to paint this up for a novelty squad:
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2017/08/16 17:39:19
Subject: Re:Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
Think of colors on a scale of 1-10. 10 being black 1 being white.
In order for the colors to stand out and pop next to each other you need at minimum a 2 step jump.
If you put a 10 black with 9 grey highlights to give it some depth then you need a 7 green at minimum to give it some pop from the black.
That is still pretty dark. The bigger the difference the more the pop. But that really depends on the look your looking for.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
2017/08/16 19:00:37
Subject: Salamanders - Vibrant green or olive drab?
spiralingcadaver wrote: I was happy with painting 'em... IDK, kinda' in-between, erring towards drab?
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