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First off, both my wife and I are VERY new to painting.
My wife is attempting to make some models covered in snow.
I currently have some Army Painter Snow Flock, and she was thinking about applying this to the models themselves (for a snowy Zombie army)
Does anyone have any experience with this and if it works ok? Any suggestions on the types of glue to do this/the bases with? Thanks!
   
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For adding sand or flock on BASES, I use good ole Elmers glue. (Put the glue on spots of choice, then pretty much sprinkle it onto the glue or dip the base into the flock tub) <-- Has always worked well for me.

The stuff from elementary school etc.

I would ASSUME (noooo!) that ON the model would be the same because the PVA glue shouldn't harm the paint job. (I have never tried or done this, so I DONT KNOW as far as on the models.)

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Bergen

Oh boy, that sounds like fun. But also like it could go straight to heck.

The flock is very fluffy, and I suspect it can absorb fluids. That means paint. So you can only add snow after you have done every thing else.

That being said, aply spme pva glue (Wood glue). Your paint is basicly PVA glue with more water, and some pigments. You would just change the pigment with some flock you season on topp.

I have added sand to buildings, with PVA glue and sand. That was a nightmare. I have also added some sand to some tomb king models to make them look more oxedised, that worked out OK. Using snow flock should not be hard.

I would just try to have snow on the most notable arias, like head and shoulders. And not do to much.

If you want to make ice for the base you can mix PVA glue with shugger, 50/50, that looks like ice. And then you can ad PVA glue and make some snow on topp.

A snow base would contrast good with a dark colour model. Dirty clothes/skin etc. Also, blood drops on snow looks very good. 'Blood From the Blood God' citadel tecnical paint is good for this. As well as adding fresh blood to the zombies.

   
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Covington LA

I haven't personally done it but I have been told that you should paint the area under the snow in white.

I printed some bases in grey and then added PVA glue and snow flock and it just ended up looking dirty. So I do know that the color underneath the snow makes a difference
   
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Thanks so much for the tips and advice everyone. Will be sure to post pictures once this is done.
   
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When I apply any flock, I mix the glue with the paint. Put it where you want and then drop on your flock. I have done this with green, brown and grey many times.

By using white paint and white glue, dropping on the white flock should come out stellar.

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Bergen

On long flock like grass it is often recomended to topp it upside down while it dries, so the grass stands out. Probably not so important for snow.

   
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I made an imperial guard sniper wearing a ghillie suit by sticking flock and other stuff to the model. Work's pretty well. I assume snow would be similar.



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 edbradders wrote:
I made an imperial guard sniper wearing a ghillie suit by sticking flock and other stuff to the model. Work's pretty well. I assume snow would be similar.



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That is a VERY cool model. Love the Ghillie suit idea.

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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Texture-Valhallan-Blizzard-24ML may be worth a look?
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 beradical wrote:
 edbradders wrote:
I made an imperial guard sniper wearing a ghillie suit by sticking flock and other stuff to the model. Work's pretty well. I assume snow would be similar.



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That is a VERY cool model. Love the Ghillie suit idea.

Thank you

I'm using him as a stand-in for a vindicare assassin as I'm not prepared to fork out £19 for a single small model.

“Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls.
The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does.
That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
– Eighth Captain, Khârn 
   
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Portland

My mix to get pretty nice snow:

wash the center white (or paint the whole thing white if going for solid snow like on the ground)

white glue, dip in fake snow (woodland scenics or similar puffy variety... I know there's at least one variety that's basically tiny white static grass-- that stuff looks terrible)

repeat once it dries, at the densest part of the snow


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Genesaika wrote:
I haven't personally done it but I have been told that you should paint the area under the snow in white.

I printed some bases in grey and then added PVA glue and snow flock and it just ended up looking dirty. So I do know that the color underneath the snow makes a difference
the idea with most snow products I've used is that you build them up so they give a natural transparency such that thin areas you can see some of the underlying colour and thick areas they are solid white. So you do NOT want to paint the area white first. Usually at least, I've seen some people paint a smaller area white to give a contrast between ice and snow without having to build it up overly thick.

I think GW's snow product might actually work well for applying snow effects to a model. I've used woodland scenics soft flake snow and the problem is the grain size is too big. It's not too bad for bases, but when you apply it to a model the big grain size stands out too much.

Another option is microballoons, but they're a bit harder to use but have a fine grain and they are not healthy to inhale so you need to wear a mask when using them and do NOT do it near a window where a gust of wind will make them airborne.

I've seen a really nice tank diorama where they used a mixture of methods, using thick white paste for a base of built up snow, woodland scenics soft flame mixed with water effects over the top to give chunks of broken up snow and microballoons on the tank/clothing/etc to give the fine grain of snow that's only just fallen.

Also I recommend using a water effects product rather than pva for binding the snow in place, they're usually more stable whereas pva can potentially go dull or even yellow over time due to soaking up humidity in the air.

Also always test methods first. One thing I've noticed is online pictures can be deceiving and what looks good in a picture doesn't always look good in reality.

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