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2017/08/19 09:40:43
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Came out yesterday, and I'm currently enjoying episode 2.
So far it's wasted little time getting down to business, and much like Avengers Assemble it assumes you'll have seen the preceding solo films, or at least enough to know who and what the characters are.
Best thing so far? Danny Rand is far less of a wet lettuce.
Shan't say much more for fear of spoilers, but definitely stick this on your telybox!
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2017/08/19 10:02:17
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Finished the whole lot in an epic binge yesterday, absolutely cracking stuff. It works so nicely as a direct sequel to both Daredevil S2 and Iron Fist (my two favourite series thus far) but does a great job of moving everyone forward in equal measure. I found Cage and Jones surprisingly watchable despite not getting on with their own shows, and the supporting casts are all present without drawing the spotlight from the main attractions.
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2017/08/19 10:07:18
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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See I found Ironfist the weakest of the bunch, but am quite enjoying him in this.
Seems to me they've cracked the ensemble issue quite nicely. And hopefully it'll bode well for the coming seasons.
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2017/08/19 12:04:56
Subject: Re:Marvel's Defenders.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I enjoyed it quite a bit. The previous series (JJ/LC/IF...Never watched Daredevil) I could only watch a couple episodes at a time. This one I binged all the way through.
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2017/08/19 13:01:27
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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I enjoyed it, the wee twist was good fun, and I feel like the way they've melded the Daredevil and Iron Fist branches of mystical-Marvel lore was a success.
One thing's bugging me though - during the 3v3 fight scene in the garage, the point where Jessica's on the floor and about to get punched to death in the head, is it my imagination or does she kind of..."whoosh" to the side really fast. Like, Jessica has a new power kinda fast. Or did something else cause that - the cinematography in that scene was pretty lets say "active".
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2017/08/19 15:12:04
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In the comics, Jessica can fly.
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2017/08/19 16:26:37
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Episode 4 now, and a cracking punch up scene! Automatically Appended Next Post: Little over half way through, and I must say the reduced episode count has resulted in a more tightly focussed story. Relatively little waffling about - though given the previous runs have been leading up to this series . It may be worth bingeing the whole lot again.
But that's like, a week off work.
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2017/08/19 22:57:41
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I found it soooo boring, the fight scenes were.... silly, the whole thing just felt so forced to me, I honestly dont know why i didnt enjoy it that much....
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2017/08/20 00:34:01
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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That was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I really hated the demystification of Madam Gao in Iron Fist, but the explanation of The Hand and how they work/came to be redeems that IMO. Quite good all 'round. Even made Danny likeable.
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2017/08/20 15:26:23
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I liked it, but I found Jessica's reluctance to get on board at first to be so seat in denial it boggled my mind and felt incredibly forced. But then again the team comes together through sheer coincidence fate so w/e. I think the best part was the ending though. Lots of intensity and leaves me wanting more without leaving me with a feeling of being cheated out of a real ending.
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2017/08/21 04:43:22
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Can she? I thought she just did the whole jumping really far thing.
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2017/08/21 05:31:10
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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AduroT wrote:
Can she? I thought she just did the whole jumping really far thing.
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2017/08/21 10:34:42
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Yeah that's what I thought, and this didn't look like a manifestation of her strength since she didn't push off anything, she just kind of blurred to the side a bit, kind of like Paul in the Dune TV miniseries.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2017/08/21 10:41:55
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I'm pretty sure she can fly in the comics, she was pretty much set up as the 'classic' superhero before being torn down, so flight, super strength, silly colourful costume ect.
Spoilers for the finale:
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2017/08/21 11:38:55
Subject: Re:Marvel's Defenders.
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Experienced Maneater
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Yeah, Jessica Jones can fly in the comics. Not very good though, she crashes regularly. So it's mostly jump/fly up a building.
I watched the series over the weekend with my wife, we really liked it.
Certainly a lot better than Luke Cage and Iron Fist, which were really boring sometimes, mainly because they stretched too few material over too much episodes.
Defenders only had 8 episodes and I think that worked really well.
The cast works great together.
I'm looking forward to seeing more of them.
(Punisher is next, can't wait!)
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2017/08/21 16:38:46
Subject: Re:Marvel's Defenders.
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Executing Exarch
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Three episodes in and seems okay, although no enough Karen and Elektra is tolerable just stabbing people over the dismal acting of DD S2
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2017/08/21 17:36:24
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Battlefield Tourist
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I am going to disagree with the consensus. 8 episodes was too short and the pace too brisk. We needed more time for the heroes to interact and do things together for the team to gel. They never really did and they felt like a bad NYC of random people linked by circumstance instead of friendship. This was especially true for Jessica and Luke.
It was good to see supporting characters get in on the action but Trish was underused and Karen was just annoying. Again an episode or two more would have helped this.
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2017/08/21 20:49:32
Subject: Re:Marvel's Defenders.
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Yeah another episode or two wouldn't have hurt, especially if we could have seen the supporting characters from the different shows interacting with each other and the other heroes more. While all of the Netflix shows so far have had pacing issues with to many episodes for there story to fill. IMO this had almost the opposite problem and could have done with a bit more room to breath.
Still overall it was really good fun. I wonder if the next team up show will lean more on Luke and Jessica's implied shared backstory? Having Roxxon be responsible for there powers(maybe Matts as well) would be a nice link to some of the other Marvel shows and movies(the Defenders showing up in Infinity war part two would be even better but I doubt that would ever happen )
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2017/08/21 20:52:05
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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I still think Karen is the real villain in DD what with killing people, getting people killed, and trying to keep Matt from being awesome. She is to annoying and damaging to those around her to be a good person or a love interest.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2017/08/21 21:06:34
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Fixture of Dakka
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2.5 episodes in and its been okay so far. I mostly just don't care about the Hand. The show exists because of Vincent D'Onofrio and David Tennant and thus far nothing in this is filling that absence.
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2017/08/23 11:45:30
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was pretty bored by the opening episodes. It all seems so slow paced. Luke is dropping back into the role he works best as, background. I hate to say it but he just couldn't carry a series by himself.
Once they tone down Ironfist being a whiny crybaby I'll be happier.
Bring on DD season 3 and the punisher to take away the growing bad taste in my mouth
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2017/08/23 12:46:10
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Making Stuff
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Easy E wrote:I am going to disagree with the consensus. 8 episodes was too short and the pace too brisk. .
I disagree, to be honest. While a longer series with these 4 characters could have been cool, I'm up to Episode 8 and thinking that for this story 8 episodes was about 4 too many.
If they could have got their acts together and filmed more than a single series at a time, this story would have made a pretty cool 4-part crossover event. But as the basis for a series in its own right, it's just a dull premise. What's the big, bad threat that unites these 4 heroes? Oh, it's The Hand again, doing... well, not much of anything for most of the series.
I enjoyed the interaction of the characters, but this was overall pretty disappointing. Unless the last episode turns out to be a real kicker, in which case I'll take at least some of that back
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2017/08/23 13:44:16
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I just finished it yesterday and honestly thought it was fantastic. They did a great job showing each character move on from the aftermath of their respective series, didn't rush the team forming together, and used a well established enemy instead of some random no name. While it definitely took more from Daredevil and Iron Fist I didn't personally mind that at all, and they still nailed the other 2 just fine. I also loved that we got to see the supporting characters from each show and they weren't just for decoration either. It could have been a couple episodes longer but I don't think the brevity ruined it by any means.
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2017/08/23 15:00:28
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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On the one hand, I'm annoyed that Daredevil miraculously/mysteriously lives. On the other hand I had also been annoyed that we would have been far less likely to see more Kingpin before the revealed his survival. I wish he had just escaped the hole with everyone else.
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2017/08/23 16:41:42
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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AduroT wrote:On the one hand, I'm annoyed that Daredevil miraculously/mysteriously lives. On the other hand I had also been annoyed that we would have been far less likely to see more Kingpin before the revealed his survival. I wish he had just escaped the hole with everyone else.
Gotta make it some miraculous thing though, so they could tease his mom.
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2017/08/24 10:50:51
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I wish the other series were 8 episodes long. Would'a made DD1 tighter, JJ1 less ploddy in the middle, DD2 wouldn't've completely unravelled by the end, LC1 maybe would have got the point by the end, and IF1... uhh... no really nothing could save IF1.
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2017/08/24 14:15:46
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Battlefield Tourist
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I think the optimal length is 10. 13 is too many and 8 is too few.
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2017/08/24 14:29:47
Subject: Marvel's Defenders.
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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creeping-deth87 wrote:I just finished it yesterday and honestly thought it was fantastic. They did a great job showing each character move on from the aftermath of their respective series, didn't rush the team forming together, and used a well established enemy instead of some random no name. While it definitely took more from Daredevil and Iron Fist I didn't personally mind that at all, and they still nailed the other 2 just fine. I also loved that we got to see the supporting characters from each show and they weren't just for decoration either. It could have been a couple episodes longer but I don't think the brevity ruined it by any means.
Exactly what i thought.
And 8 episodes with a streamlined narrative is still better than poor filler episodes.
10 episodes would have been ok though.
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