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The Mid-Western Front

Any thoughts on the standings this year?

As a Chiefs Fan it would be great for us to start the season beating the Pats... but who knows.

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Oxfordshire

I'm going to try and follow it this year. Watched lots of games over the last few years and think I've got the rules of the game sorted. The whole conference thing is still confusing to me. Tragically, the team that I decided to support, should I ever follow NFL properly, was the Eagles. I understand I'm on to a bit of a loser straight away.
   
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Dem Chiefs!

Making a game out of this! 28-27, Chiefs and in the redzone. But Brady's got time...

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Oh, what a beautiful sight, Chiefs taking a knee in an empty stadium.

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 Peregrine wrote:
Oh, what a beautiful sight, Chiefs taking a knee in an empty stadium.


Came to post the same. But "Patriots" in front of 'stadium'.

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Typical over-reaction time already?

Patriots suffered from a bit too much celebrating the last great game they were in - hoisting the trophy this past February.

Looks like they kinda forgot that was last season.

(And lets not forget when they did that in 2014 - that was another classic Super Bowl championship game there!)

I don't mind them getting embarrassed at home - serves them right, they deserved it and it should wake them up too.

   
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Leerstetten, Germany

The loss was well deserved, and after the whole "we are the comeback champions of the world" and "hey Goodel, feth you again for two years ago" from both the team and the crowd it was probably much needed as well.

Remember this commercial:




Yes, after the Superbowl each team is undefeated again. And, as the Patriots were reminded, each team is also winless again. It's okay to celebrate the success of last season, but last season is also last season. And nothing you did last season has any impact on what you are going to do this season, so they needed to get their head in the game.

Everybody had the Patriots chalked up for a possible perfect season. If KC would have gotten their rears handed to them, nobody would have been surprised and everybody would have been "first game of the season, playing the Patriots at home, what do you expect". The Patriots, mentally, were probably already thinking that same thing. The Chiefs knew they had nothing to lose and went for it with hunger, and it paid off. The Patriots ate humble pie.

Does this mean the Patriots suck this season? I don't think so. They might be more dangerous now and play that much better for the rest of the season because of that bitter taste in their mouth. This could be the beginning of the end for this Patriots team, but this could just as well be the fire that lights them up this season.

Plenty of games to go.
   
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Everybody?

Hardly.

And I can tell you not even close to a majority up here in New England!

   
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Well, lots of talking heads were talking about how they had a good team of returning players and a smart off-season of getting new players, and that this might be the ingredients for a perfect season. Maybe not talking heads in New England, but the talk was there.

And if my totally anectodal sample size of one is anything to go by, which would be my stepfather, then New England fans have this weird thing where they are constantly complaining that the Patriots are constantly just one decision away from fething the entire season up no matter how good the team actually is. Wasn't the coach basically bitching at the end of the season and complaining about something like "winning this trophy put us weeks behind to prepare for next season, everybody else that lost has it better than us"?

It almost seems like a lot of Patriots fans have a "little brother" like relationship with the team: you can beat up your own little brother, but will stand up to anybody else wanting to beat him up.
   
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The important thing is that right now the Patriots have the worst record in the league!

   
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Will this be the year that the Browns reach the superbowl?

I shall watch the London games when they're on.


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 Henry wrote:
I'm going to try and follow it this year. Watched lots of games over the last few years and think I've got the rules of the game sorted. The whole conference thing is still confusing to me. Tragically, the team that I decided to support, should I ever follow NFL properly, was the Eagles. I understand I'm on to a bit of a loser straight away.


4 and 10. That's the only rule you really need to know if you're a casual fan like me, and it's what I say to people who know nothing about it, but want to watch it.

Yeah, I know the game is a lot more complicated than that, but you have to start somewhere

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Did we lose some of the previous years DakkaDakka NFL thread stalwarts? Protesting the NFL? Protesting the OT? No fantasy?

I feel like we should be knee deep in moderately heated discussions about how much is “x team” for real? Is Joe Flacco elite? How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? Controversial calls/penalties Etc etc, and its been nary a word in 3 months.

Whats going on?

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They don't care for football as much these days. This'll be my first and last really.

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For me, the whole thing with the players kneeling during the anthem has turned me off of the NFL. The players should find a better way to protest the stuff they are protesting (much of which isn't even true). And since the NFL is just going to let them do it, I won't watch pro football. I didn't watch it religiously before, but now I'm boycotting it along with plenty of other people I know.

I still follow the Chiefs as far as their win/loss ratio and stuff, but I'm not watching any games until they make the players show respect to the flag and the country.

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 ZergSmasher wrote:
For me, the whole thing with the players kneeling during the anthem has turned me off of the NFL. The players should find a better way to protest the stuff they are protesting (much of which isn't even true). And since the NFL is just going to let them do it, I won't watch pro football. I didn't watch it religiously before, but now I'm boycotting it along with plenty of other people I know.

I still follow the Chiefs as far as their win/loss ratio and stuff, but I'm not watching any games until they make the players show respect to the flag and the country.


Soooo, should they start rioting instead? Apparently peaceful protest is not okay.
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:


Soooo, should they start rioting instead? Apparently peaceful protest is not okay.


Everyone knows that if you don't agree with stuff you should just shut up and be quiet.

Though I was surprised the NFL decided not to ban the practice bust just asked players not to. Surprised and impressed because now they're doing this and it's just so much better.

I actually ended up watching football today. No idea what's going on. No idea who anyone is. But I did totally see a guy in a blue uniform (the bills I think) botch a catch right by the sidelines for his own team and one of the guys just off the field threw his hands up like "come on how could you miss that" and that was kind of amusing

   
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 ZergSmasher wrote:
... until they make the players show respect to the flag and the country.


Yes. You must display proper support of the state, lest you wish a nighttime visit from the Staatssicherheit for a vacation in Hohenschönhausen.

players should find a better way to protest the stuff they are protesting


I actually agree. I feel that protesting peacefully in a manner that is highly visible yet doesn't disrupt the lives of the general population isn't overall that effective. It's too easy to ignore. I also feel mass peaceful protests aren't the most effective because while they can disrupt the lives of the area's population, it's still easily ignoreable and far too easy for the governmental to conduct cointelpro operations to cause violent confrontations as a means to discredit any message.

They should return to our patriotic roots and have monetarily-targeted destructive protests, aiming to cause millions of dollars of damages to the organizations that they are protesting. They should take a note from Samuel Adams and other patriotic Americans, and use targeted strikes to ransack government offices and destroy specific property. Hell, the New England's End Zone Militia could help make it feel even more authentic.

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 d-usa wrote:
The moment you are forced to “respect” the flag, it’s no longer worth respecting.

It shouldn't be forced; no one is saying someone should point a gun at their head and shoot them if they kneel. I'm just saying it is very rude to refuse to stand for the national anthem and shows disrespect for everything our founding fathers fought for.

Honestly I'm not sure what the right answer is as far as how the guys should protest. I do know that kneeling during the anthem is just making them look like disrespectful asshats. I'm not the only one who feels this way either; you should hear the chorus of boos in the stadiums, at least when it was first happening.

Anyway, while it should not be forced, at least by the government, for anyone to stand during the anthem, I think the NFL should make it mandatory for players since they are very much the public face of the NFL. After all, if I went to work and protested in some way that was very visible to the public while I was at work, I would probably be fired.

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meh...

It was only a recent thing that the players were on the field during the anthem.

Just stay in the locker room till then.

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The founding fathers didn’t fight for a piece of cloth, they fought for ideals and freedoms. And one of those freedoms is protesting, and speaking up, and using their public face and fame to draw attention to a cause.

The players bring as much money to the owners and league as the league brings to the players. If the league wants to force an issue and the players walk off, then they are out of money. If people stop watching because they put a piece of cloth above the players, they lose money. The NFL is in a tough spot, so the best thing they can do is to honor their contract. And the players have a contract that doesn’t force them to stand. The only reason the NFL even gives a crap about patriotism is because our government is paying them cash to advertise patriotism. It’s only been a couple of years, but I guess we already forgot this:

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/259120-mccain-flake-slam-so-called-paid-patriotism-at-sporting-events
   
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I remember it. I was just to lazy to look up any contemporary news about it

My dad is sad cause the Giants, his favorite team, are apparently doing horribly this season XD I've decided my favorite team will be the Bills mostly because of the opportunities for cheesy puns and dad jokes. Plus they're apparently the most underdog team in the league which means that when they (statistical inevitability) end up in the playoffs someday I can say I liked them before they won the Super Bowl

   
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 ZergSmasher wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
The moment you are forced to “respect” the flag, it’s no longer worth respecting.

It shouldn't be forced; no one is saying someone should point a gun at their head and shoot them if they kneel. I'm just saying it is very rude to refuse to stand for the national anthem and shows disrespect for everything our founding fathers fought for.



The founding fathers literally fought so that you would have the choice of standing or sitting or doing backflips or whatever you wanted to do during the national anthem. Throwing a fit that people are exercising their freedoms(That the founding fathers fought for) is imo, the most disrespectful and unpatriotic thing you could possibly do. I mean, the National Anthem wasn't even a thing when the Founding Fathers were around, so I am not sure they would even care about it. Honestly, they would probably be disgusted by the whole boycott and reaction towards people exercising the rights they wrote in to the constitution.

But hey, do what you want to do! Boycott away! Free country and everything.

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Ahem, meanwhile, back OT relative to the thread title. Brady and NE revisit the pain on Atlanta, who seem to just still be discombobulated from last year's SB collapse.

...and the Bears are starting to win, w-h-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-t?!

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 whembly wrote:
meh...

It was only a recent thing that the players were on the field during the anthem.

Just stay in the locker room till then.


Or better yet, the Pentagon can stop spending taxpayer dollars on rituals of forced patriotism like this was North Korea or something. Of course, that would take away a valuable chance for football fans, 77% of whom are white, to explain how black people should protest injustice.

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 nels1031 wrote:
Did we lose some of the previous years DakkaDakka NFL thread stalwarts? Protesting the NFL? Protesting the OT? No fantasy?


One of my coworkers who was into football says he's no longer into it because they no longer have "big hits". I guess tackling is done differently now in response to CTEs? Anyway he said it's not exciting at all anymore.



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Damn “keep players from becoming brain damaged rage filled vegetables” initiative.
   
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Man, I really don't like football, but you guys must hate it, as hard as you're trying to get this thread locked.

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Chiefs lost a tough game - still look like the best team in the league though.

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