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2017/09/17 06:22:08
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So I am becoming tempted to make up an exodite army. I would likely make it semi competitive but first and foremost it would be themed above all other things.
So which units from amongst all eldar armies would best fit in an exodite list?
I am currently leaning towards Rangers and most of the bike options (as mounted troops) as well as eldar tanks (larger dragon/beasts).
Thoughts and ideas are welcome.
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2017/09/17 06:42:07
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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Bikes and tanks are a good start.
Corsairs would be another flexible and good option (and hey, Dark Elf models of the same name exist for that more feral feel) that fits the theme and can work for aesthetics.
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2017/09/17 07:10:50
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Corsairs and Rangers backed up by Warwalkers.
Guardians are poets and philosophers.
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2017/09/17 07:26:58
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ynnari rules
Windriders and Shiny Weapers, get Cold Ones and put riders on them.
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2017/09/17 07:42:28
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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And Knights. Don't forget Wraithkights.
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2017/09/17 08:01:17
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Corsairs are a good idea.
War walkers I guess have the scout feel. Would want to convert them up.
Yes I will definitely have at least one unit of windriders and a unit of shining spears.
The issue with ynnari is having to have one of the named character. Would happily convert something up.
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2017/09/17 08:18:24
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wyldcarde wrote:Corsairs are a good idea.
War walkers I guess have the scout feel. Would want to convert them up.
Yes I will definitely have at least one unit of windriders and a unit of shining spears.
The issue with ynnari is having to have one of the named character. Would happily convert something up.
Well Eldar book is coming out soon, so if he played more so when the codex comes out, using Bikes and Corsairs you might not need to go Ynnari, right now there is no points player "Eldar"
Also if i remember correctly they are still highly Psychic powerful, so using the Yvraine might be fluffy still, and it has a cat familiar, could paint that up like a jungle cat.
I do like the Rangers idea also, the Corsairs, use..... AoS Dark Elfs? (The old Dark Elfs Corsairs) they work GREAT for it. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Elf-Black-Ark-Corsairs
They also comes with Pistol looking things, so you can make BoP's
Edit: added link
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2017/09/17 08:48:13
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Tons and tons of Guardians and some Rangers. Have an Avatar of Khaine too, to make them feel more Magicy and Backwater.
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2017/09/17 09:30:51
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Battleship Captain
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Eldar dragon-mounted cavalry is a classic -mix and match bits of shining spears and cold one knights.
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2017/09/17 13:47:23
Subject: Re:What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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While you can't really represent a real Exodite force currently, you can make some attempts. The core would likely be cold-one riding lance cavalry, used as Shining Spears. You can always include Rangers and such as they'd be around the area, scouting, trading, etc. Basic Exodite citizenry has never been really well described. You can do up some larger beasts with support weapons (howdahs on the back of dragons) = war walkers, or dreadnoughts or huge ones being Wraithknights.
Swooping Hawks would probably work as well if you modeled some Eldar riding small winged beasts, etc.
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2017/09/17 14:33:29
Subject: Re:What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Elbows wrote:While you can't really represent a real Exodite force currently, you can make some attempts.
Why not? What is missing? Hopefully with access to 3 army lists plus forgeworld something will fill all the gaps.
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2017/09/17 14:37:42
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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CAPTAIN COWARD wrote:Tons and tons of Guardians and some Rangers. Have an Avatar of Khaine too, to make them feel more Magicy and Backwater.
Avatars? What?
Guardians?
Um.... Automatically Appended Next Post: Amishprn86 wrote:Ynnari rules
Windriders and Shiny Weapers, get Cold Ones and put riders on them.
Ynnari? Why? Automatically Appended Next Post: locarno24 wrote:Eldar dragon-mounted cavalry is a classic -mix and match bits of shining spears and cold one knights.
Yes. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Why? Automatically Appended Next Post: DarkStarSabre wrote:Bikes and tanks are a good start.
Corsairs would be another flexible and good option (and hey, Dark Elf models of the same name exist for that more feral feel) that fits the theme and can work for aesthetics.
Good. Automatically Appended Next Post: Elbows wrote:While you can't really represent a real Exodite force currently, you can make some attempts. The core would likely be cold-one riding lance cavalry, used as Shining Spears. You can always include Rangers and such as they'd be around the area, scouting, trading, etc. Basic Exodite citizenry has never been really well described. You can do up some larger beasts with support weapons (howdahs on the back of dragons) = war walkers, or dreadnoughts or huge ones being Wraithknights.
Swooping Hawks would probably work as well if you modeled some Eldar riding small winged beasts, etc.
Very nice ideas here.
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2017/09/17 16:33:55
Subject: Re:What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Wraithknight rules would actually work really well for Exodites, considering in the fluff there are many far-flung Imperial worlds where Knight houses face off with Exodite colonies. They mention large dinosaurs or dragons that the Eldar use to combat Knights, etc. So, a Wraithknight's rules would probably lend itself well to a larger beast with weapon platforms strapped to its back, etc.
So, not using the Wraithknight model at all --- but using its statline.
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2017/09/17 17:20:12
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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Because Eldar Exodite clans field Knight suits. That's literally the first thing we ever learned about them, before all this new-fangled nonsense about dinosaur cavalry.
Not Wraithknights, but since we're talking counts-as (which also explains Guardians - what else would basic Eldar warriors be represented by?), that's the only choice at the moment.
The stock Wraithknight model with scatter shield and suncannon and secondary shuriken cannon would work pretty well for a Fire Gale Knight suit. Twin Wraithcannon and starcannon would be OKish as a Towering Destroyer, and the Bright Stallion would need some hefty kitbashing.
Ynnari presumably allows you to mix Craftworld and Dark Eldar? That would probably help diversify things, I suppose.
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2017/09/17 17:24:10
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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jeff white wrote: CAPTAIN COWARD wrote:Tons and tons of Guardians and some Rangers. Have an Avatar of Khaine too, to make them feel more Magicy and Backwater.
Avatars? What?
Guardians?
Um....
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Amishprn86 wrote:Ynnari rules
Windriders and Shiny Weapers, get Cold Ones and put riders on them.
Ynnari? Why?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
locarno24 wrote:Eldar dragon-mounted cavalry is a classic -mix and match bits of shining spears and cold one knights.
Yes.
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Why?
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DarkStarSabre wrote:Bikes and tanks are a good start.
Corsairs would be another flexible and good option (and hey, Dark Elf models of the same name exist for that more feral feel) that fits the theme and can work for aesthetics.
Good.
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Elbows wrote:While you can't really represent a real Exodite force currently, you can make some attempts. The core would likely be cold-one riding lance cavalry, used as Shining Spears. You can always include Rangers and such as they'd be around the area, scouting, trading, etc. Basic Exodite citizenry has never been really well described. You can do up some larger beasts with support weapons (howdahs on the back of dragons) = war walkers, or dreadnoughts or huge ones being Wraithknights.
Swooping Hawks would probably work as well if you modeled some Eldar riding small winged beasts, etc.
Very nice ideas here.
Guessing you didnt read my other comment, not repeating myself after this again.
I said "until the codex comes out its not worth playing as eldar" this is especially true when playing with large amounts of shiny spears and they are still "Psychic heavy" the SfD could just be from/a form of the Matrix they used for their world(s), and not necessarily a "YnnarI'' thing, if you are willing to play an army with zero rules anyways as fluff driven, just make up rules with using other rules out of the little fluff there is.
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2017/09/18 00:47:29
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
Looks like a mostly mounted army will be the go. Don't know how Dino-ridery I want to go. I've seen some other interesting takes on exodites that I might try to incorporate rather than just "eldar on dinosaurs".
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2017/09/18 01:16:02
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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2017/09/21 17:12:24
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So I threw together a bit of a list with some units I would want to take with ideas of how I would represent them.
This is what I am thinking for the first 2000 points
The majority of models will be a combination of wood elf, dark elf and eldar/dark eldar.
Hq
Yvraine - represented by some suitably wood elf character
Farseer on skyrunner - mounted on a cold one
Warlock on skyrunner - mounted on a cold one or possibly seeker of slaanesh
Archon - represented by some suitably wood elf character
Troop
10 corsairs with shardcarbine - bodyguard for yvraine. Converted dark elf corsairs
2x5 Rangers - as is
Fast attack
5 shining spears - cold one Knights
2x 3 wind riders with shuriken cannon - converted mounted on seekers possibly
8 scourges with heat lance - unsure. Either converted to be winged or mounted on terradons (or whatever called) based on hellion riders
Elite
10 incubi - as is (elite guard)
Heavy support
Night spinner - converted big dinosaur thing
Dedicated transport
Raider - converted dragon with raider bits likely with the platform on top
In addition would run the archon and 5 kabalites and 10 mandrakes in a drukhari patrol detachment. Kabalites would just be converted dark elf/wood elf likely. Mandrakes as is.
That would be 2000 points and should be a decent mix of modelling while still being not too shabby on the table. With a fairly mobile and hard hitting force which would fit with an exodite battle style.
Any other suggestions for the scourges?
There are other units I would want to model up (eventually) but feel like this would be a good starting point. If I ever get around to doing it.
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2017/09/21 21:10:04
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Wild Riders or Sisters of the Thorn as Shining Spears. A Treeman Ancient as a Wraithseer.
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2017/09/21 23:27:25
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Fixture of Dakka
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No one seems to have mentioned dark eldar beasts yet. If you go the aeldari or ynnari route, dark eldar beasts would be a great way to represent various maiden world creatures. Large cats or raptors for khymarae. Anything swarmy as razorwings. Anything bulky as clawed fiends.
And yeah. Shining spears are definitely the way to go in terms of rules. I was flipping through my 2nd edition eldar codex recently, and a dragon knight was basically just a well-armored space elf that could move quickly and was armed with a laser lance. Literally a laser lance.
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ATTENTION. Psychic tests are unfluffy. Your longing for AV is understandable but misguided. Your chapter doesn't need a separate codex. Doctrines should go away. Being a "troop" means nothing. This has been a cranky service announcement. You may now resume your regularly scheduled arguing.
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2017/09/22 01:35:26
Subject: What eldar would fit in an exodite force
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Oh yeah beasts with a beast master would be a great idea!
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