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Made in ca
Scuttling Genestealer




Waterloo

Hi, I'm looking to make a decent list for 8th edition with the models I have. The only models I would need to make this list are the Bullgryns, but I I was planning on getting them anyways because I think they're pretty dang cool. The list doesn't have to crush face, but I do want to be able to have good, competitive games with top tier armies without absolutely trouncing less optimized lists. Anyways, on to the army itself.

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [65 PL, 1419pts]

HQ

Bjorn the Fell-handed [14 PL, 277pts]
Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon

Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf [8 PL, 168pts]
Storm shield, Thunder hammer

Elites

Wulfen [13 PL, 284pts]
4x Wulfen
2x Great frost axe
2x Thunder hammer & Stormshield
Wulfen Pack Leader
Frost claws

Fast Attack

Thunderwolf Cavalry [16 PL, 340pts]
Thunderwolf Cavalry
Storm shield, Wolf claw
Thunderwolf Cavalry
Storm shield, Wolf claw
Thunderwolf Cavalry
Storm shield, Wolf claw
Thunderwolf Cavalry
Wolf claw, Wolf claw
Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader
Wolf claw, Wolf claw

Heavy Support

Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]
4x ML

Long Fangs [7 PL, 175pts]
4x ML

Battalion Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [37 PL, 581pts]

HQ

Lord Commissar [4 PL, 55pts]
Bolt pistol, Power maul

Troops

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 62pts]
Plasma Gun, Autocannon

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 62pts]
Plasma Gun, Autocannon

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 62pts]
Plasma Gun, Autocannon

Elites

Bullgryns [14 PL, 168pts]
3x Bullgryns with Slabshields and Mauls
1x Bone'ead with Slabshield and Maul

Flyer

Valkyries [10 PL, 172pts]
Valkyrie
2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Lascannon

The Bullgryns go in the Valkyrie for a first turn charge, with the Wulfen and Thunderwolves barreling up the board to take pressure off the firing platform at the back. The idea is the CQC units can hold off and get enough points out of themselves so that eventually the AM infantry can hold objectives and the Long Fangs + Bjorn can lay down fire to destroy any vehicles or tough targets that survive. A clear weakness in this list is psykers, which is why I'm considering subbing the Wolf Lord out for Njal, but I'm not sure yet.

I'd love to hear your thoughts! Thanks guys.
   
Made in it
Waaagh! Ork Warboss




Italy

Bjorn and the wolf lord are redundant, both give the same re-roll bonus. The wolf lord also has a 4++ invuln, the 15 pts storm shield doesn't worth it anyway. I'd suggest to use a wolf guard battle leader on a thunderwolf with thunder hammer and storm shield instead of the lord. Almost the same stats, but 31 pts cheaper and he gives a different bonus that can be cumulative with bjorn's one. Alternatively use a wolf priest on bike that buffs the TWC and the wulfen.

 
   
Made in ca
Scuttling Genestealer




Waterloo

It's not totally useless IMO because bjorn and the wolf lord are gonna be very separated all game. Bjorn is basically a backlines support/shooty HQ in this list, with the Wolf Lord running up to beat face. Also, the WGBL wouldn't pair well with the wolf claws I dont think, cuz the re-rolls to wound is something they'd already be getting. A wolf priest on bike is an interesting option though, I actually might replace the Wolf Lord with that, makes more sense I think. Thanks for the feedback!
   
Made in it
Waaagh! Ork Warboss




Italy

 Zavvy wrote:
It's not totally useless IMO because bjorn and the wolf lord are gonna be very separated all game. Bjorn is basically a backlines support/shooty HQ in this list, with the Wolf Lord running up to beat face. Also, the WGBL wouldn't pair well with the wolf claws I dont think, cuz the re-rolls to wound is something they'd already be getting. A wolf priest on bike is an interesting option though, I actually might replace the Wolf Lord with that, makes more sense I think. Thanks for the feedback!


You're right, I didn't noticed the wolf claws; to make the WBGL useful the TWC could take frost swords instead. 2 pts cheaper per model, same strength but AP-3 instead of AP-1. They would become an anti elites option rather than anti infantries though, wolf claws are very effective against hordes.

You don't need bjorn in the backlines since he can give the re-rolls only to SW units and the long fangs already have that re-roll in their profile. There are no other SW shooty units in your list, that's why I suggested to bring two HQs that give different kinds of re-rolls.

Usually the WGBL is solid with a thunder hammer and storm shield (he doesn't have the 4+ invuln so it worth it in this case), 137 points vs the 141 of the wolf lord with two claws. But with lots of TWC and wulfen the wolf priest can make them absolute beasts in combat.

 
   
Made in ca
Scuttling Genestealer




Waterloo

I totally mis-read bjorn's bonus. Thought it was re-rolling all hits, not just 1s. That's why I was gonna stick him with the long fangs. I might just completely replace him with a wolf priest and a WGBL as well. Give the TWC frost swords, then the'yre getting +1 A, re rolling 1s to hit and to wound. Seems pretty insane.
   
 
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