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2017/09/21 13:33:34
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
23th September was the third, technically the fourth of a set of millenial events, and some people cant get over the idea that the end of a calender cycle means the beginning of a new calender cycle and not the end of everything. It is odd that we have several major calender cycles ending in a very short space of time, this last one is pratically unnoticed beyond Hebrew scholars.
31st Dec 1999 - "The (popular) Millenium' Colloquially when the clocks change to a 2 in the fist year digit. This was the most well known yet in some ways false as the actual millenium past exactly one year later. Note here we celebrate the countdown and the change of digits compared to below and the party is on the last day..
1st Jan 2001 - "The (actual) Millenium" The actual Millenium, as the numbers one to a thousand include 1 and 1000 but not zero. The preceding day was the last dat of the Twenthieth Century and th last day of the second millenium. This date effectively past unnoticed except as another new year. But that also meant no doomsdays.
12th December 2012 - "The Long Count" The Mayan calendar renewed its cycle on this day, as that calender cycle is very long and the culture behind it mysterious it therefore became a doomsday to some.
23rd September 2017 - "The Jubilee of Jubilees" We are currently in the Jubilee, the 'year of forgiving of debts' according to the Hebrew Calender, not that the banks are part of the celebration. The jubilee ends on September 23rd on the feast of Trumpets. Now a Hebrew Jubilee is once every fifty years according to law, and this will be the fiftieth day of Jubilee since the promise of restoration in the book of Daniel. Now actually the whole year is special rather than the day, but 23rd September marks the completion of the cycle. As with all the others to some people a completion of a cycle doesnt mean the beginning of the next, it means doomsday. Ok moving on.
That being said the Jubilee of Jubilee is eschatologically significant, as we now more onto 'extra time'. However the day is largely irrelevant. During the last year of Jubilee, the fist since the return from exile in 1967 the Jews retook Jerusalem, nothing particularly significant happened this Hebrew year.
I am not above looking for a sign on 23rd September, because its the feast of Trumpets, and the next eschatological sign is supposed to appear on the feast of Trumpets, and it is the Jubilee of Jubilees, but nevertheless it is not necessary for anything to happen on this particular feast of Trumpets.
In fact Biblically a deadline for a punishment passes unnoticed, and as most End Time events are negative extra time to repent is a common theme. It was with Jonah. So scripturally good things happen when they are ordained, bad things are delayed a random time afterwards, and therefore I wont be expecting any Doomsday in two days time.
Fixed.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 13:56:27
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
I'm curious as to why, when people come up with these dates, never seem to incorperate the various lost/gained days switching from calender to calender.
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2017/09/21 14:05:33
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Jesus said "noone knows the day or the hour but the father who is in heaven...."
So I don't, and neither do most Christians who read the Bible, in fact there is a warning against this type of behaviour.
Luke 17:23 "People will tell you, 'There he is!' or 'Here he is!' Do not go running off after them."
Are we in or approaching 'End Times' ? I think so, but I put no finger on dates. Eschatology is interesting though, a prophet back in 2013 wrote that in order for the End Times to be ready the UK (Tarshish) would have to leave the EU (Magog). Nobody saw that happening anytime soon....
Some pieces are getting into position according to Revelations and Daniel prophecy, and that we can discern; but dates - no, and we are warned not to set timelines as God will arrive and drop the hammer at an unexpected time.
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Mozzyfuzzy wrote: I'm curious as to why, when people come up with these dates, never seem to incorperate the various lost/gained days switching from calender to calender.
This is true of the Milenium, but that isn't a count as such because it doesn't start on a specific event, only rumour of an event accurate to a few years and doesn't incorporate calender changes. The count is not relevant the numerical changes from 1999 to 2000 is as is the 'end of the Twenteth century' one year later.
The Mayan long count and Hebrew calender however are accurate they are based on their own independent clock. They are translated to the Gregorian calender dates we set but are calculated in their own calender. We are in the Hebrew year 5778.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 14:10:23
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Orlanth wrote: Now a Hebrew Jubilee is once every fifty years according to law, and this will be the fiftieth day of Jubilee since Moses.
Every 50 years x 50 times = 2500 years. Given that Moses supposedly lived more than a thousand years earlier* than that 2500 year point how exactly is this supposed to work?
*Yes, fictional character and all, but let's assume that the myth is correct.
So scripturally good things happen when they are ordained, bad things are delayed a random time afterwards, and therefore I wont be expecting any Doomsday in two days time.
A random delay which seems like a very convenient way to never have to admit that a doomsday prophecy is wrong.
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2017/09/21 14:18:35
Subject: Re:It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
One thing should add is a stellar alignment thsat will occur at the time which will not be repeated for six thousand years.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 14:25:18
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
I have to go shopping for furniture with my lil sis.
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Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
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2017/09/21 14:36:13
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Orlanth wrote: Now a Hebrew Jubilee is once every fifty years according to law, and this will be the fiftieth day of Jubilee since Moses.
Every 50 years x 50 times = 2500 years. Given that Moses supposedly lived more than a thousand years earlier* than that 2500 year point how exactly is this supposed to work?
*Yes, fictional character and all, but let's assume that the myth is correct.
I fixed the above, its not the fiftieth since Moses but the fiftieth since Daniel, and Jubilees didn't start with Moses either.
Also there is a fair bit of historicity to Moses as evidenced in Sinai excavations. He was not a fictional character.
So scripturally good things happen when they are ordained, bad things are delayed a random time afterwards, and therefore I wont be expecting any Doomsday in two days time.
A random delay which seems like a very convenient way to never have to admit that a doomsday prophecy is wrong.
Actually its how it works. Israel restored in 1948 to the day as prophecied. But Ninevah was destroyed late, God always allows extra time to repent. Both happened though.
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 14:45:45
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Curiously, I recall reading about the year of Jubilee, and forgiving of debts. Does that have any bearing in modern Judaism?
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2017/09/21 14:58:22
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Curiously, I recall reading about the year of Jubilee, and forgiving of debts. Does that have any bearing in modern Judaism?
Not that I have heard. Perhaps some communities practice it internally, but they would try and settle debts prior to the Jubilee and it doesnt apply to outsiders.
This is one of the things Islam got right. Many non-Moslems are getting a usuary free mortgage.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 15:03:48
Subject: Re:It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2017/09/21 15:10:43
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Worst part about predicting Doomsday is it's a no-win.
Predicted a random day and didn't happen, everyone knows you're wrong.
Predicted a random day and does happen, nobody there to know you're right.
2017/09/21 16:14:04
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
I have to go shopping for furniture with my lil sis.
My god
run for the hills man.
I've survived melenium bug. 2012, and more but that's a doom that no force can avert.
Brace the gates!
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2017/09/21 17:43:30
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
Sometimes I wonder if the end of the world happened if anyone would even notice. By most accounts it seems like it happens all the time, and it kinda feels like nothing changes at all.
I read about this a few days ago. I'm honestly not sure how these nuts make it into the news. Tell you all what, I'm gonna be halfway up a mountain on the 23rd. If I see any rapidly falling planets, I'll be sure to race down to somewhere with cell phone signal so that I can come here and get last post.
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He’s also critical of the young generation, which he said has been “dumbed down by TV, commercials, sports and so forth.”
“What amazes me is that this new generation does not engage in critical thinking … They don’t read. They don’t understand anything,” he wrote. “Very sad, really.”
I like the blame on young people,
- and their TV (even though their cord cutting is murdering the TV industry)
- and commercials (even though they're the 'ad blocker generation' and are murdering the ad-sponsored internet)
- and sports (even though they're the 'lazy generation' that spends all their time on their phones.)
And yet the young people don't engage in critical thinking, just ask the guy who believes a planet that apparently is invisible (and also lacks mass) is going to be colliding cataclysmically with our own according to magic numbers that were thoroughly hidden for us in a book, translated from greek, translated from hebrew, by a fatherly sky wizard.
I too appear to lack critical thinking skills. I'm kinda happy about that.
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daedalus wrote: Sometimes I wonder if the end of the world happened if anyone would even notice. By most accounts it seems like it happens all the time, and it kinda feels like nothing changes at all.
I read about this a few days ago. I'm honestly not sure how these nuts make it into the news. Tell you all what, I'm gonna be halfway up a mountain on the 23rd. If I see any rapidly falling planets, I'll be sure to race down to somewhere with cell phone signal so that I can come here and get last post.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And then I read:
He’s also critical of the young generation, which he said has been “dumbed down by TV, commercials, sports and so forth.”
“What amazes me is that this new generation does not engage in critical thinking … They don’t read. They don’t understand anything,” he wrote. “Very sad, really.”
I like the blame on young people,
- and their TV (even though their cord cutting is murdering the TV industry)
- and commercials (even though they're the 'ad blocker generation' and are murdering the ad-sponsored internet)
- and sports (even though they're the 'lazy generation' that spends all their time on their phones.)
And yet the young people don't engage in critical thinking, just ask the guy who believes a planet that apparently is invisible (and also lacks mass) is going to be colliding cataclysmically with our own according to magic numbers that were thoroughly hidden for us in a book, translated from greek, translated from hebrew, by a fatherly sky wizard.
I too appear to lack critical thinking skills. I'm kinda happy about that.
Alas, the sad lack of critical thinking. Just imagine what we could have achieved if, like this man, we had been believing in the imminent apocalypse this whole time! I'm sure the younger folk would have worked much harder then.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Alas, the sad lack of critical thinking. Just imagine what we could have achieved if, like this man, we had been believing in the imminent apocalypse this whole time! I'm sure the younger folk would have worked much harder then.
Dude! If only they would have bootstrapped properly from the get-go, we could have avoided this apocalypse to begin with.
I just bought my first house. At least I won't have to make a mortgage payment
Seriously though, if its blatantly written in the bible that only God knows when the world will end, and he isn't saying, why do "Christians" keep coming up with this stuff?
SIDE NOTE: The quotes is not an attack on religion, or Christians. But weirdos keep using it as their platform for acceptance, so it needs to be there.
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2017/09/22 03:15:35
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine...
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