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As it says on the box. With no apparent new minis for Craftworlders (Eldrad aside), I'd like to start a conversation about how people imagine Ynnari should look like, since there is literally no binding aesthetic at the moment: they're supposed to be a hodge-podge of ex-Drukhari/Asuryani with two legendary warriors guiding them (again no visual similarities) and a living god. Would they look like they were pre-fall? What weapons would they use? Where and how would they live? Would they be an elite force or consisting of guardian/warrior equivalents? Discuss.

An Upgrade Spur would be great for this.

10 Heads, 2 of each (Wych, Kabal, Guardian, Windrider, Dire Avenger)
5 bodies 2 of each (Wych, Kabal, Guardian, Windrider, Dire Avenger)
10 Bases
And a couple weapons for each model.

The pieces would have the ghastly swirly to them and the Ynnari Mark/Symbol. Maybe something different with the Soul Stones.

Like the Visarch

He looks like a mix of eldar guardian, dark eldar kabalite warrior and abit of harlequin with the faces on his armour.

And using fur and having exotic pets with bright colors.

Also raising the scale of them to become "primaris eldar"

And also getting a new type of shuriken catapult that have a shoulder stock and abit of a sharper and pointy look to blend in with dark eldar style.

Also some mounted troops on some kind of exotic animal. Maybe some flying alien dinosaur type.

Abit like these star wars creatures:

The Visarch is an Incubi not Kabal, but the faces/lines on him would be cool to add.

Now that you said that it reminds me that the classic metal incubi has similar kind of faces on their kneepads, pretty cool homage to them i must say!

At the moment, the three minis from the triumvirate are quite different from one another. The main thing they have in common is the very high amount of spirit stones.
I don't think we'll get that many spirit stones on standard dudes, because it doesn't make much sense (they're supposed to be rare). I also like to think they're related to the rules that let the heros recover wounds when nearby models die (as they suck their souls), so unless they want to give a similar rule to every model, spirit stones aren't the way to go.

I would love them to go the "fanatic" way. If you look at the models in bodysuits, the wyches seem to be rushing forward, and the harlequins jump around weightlessly. They could make a unit a bit similar (bodysuit, cc weapon/pistol), but with poses more like the witch aelves, or anything that looks like they're in trance.
They could also wear a few extravagant accessories. A bit like the Visarch's fur, or Yvraine's headwear with the feathers.
I really like face masks, but it won't be that easy to not step too much on the harlequin's toes, as they already have a death-theme going on there (and also a slanesh-looking mask on the solitaire).

 Amishprn86 wrote:
The Visarch is an Incubi not Kabal, but the faces/lines on him would be cool to add.

To be fair, visually there's very little differrence between Kabalite Armour, Ghostplate Armour and an Incubus Warsuite.


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fresus wrote:
At the moment, the three minis from the triumvirate are quite different from one another. The main thing they have in common is the very high amount of spirit stones.
I don't think we'll get that many spirit stones on standard dudes, because it doesn't make much sense (they're supposed to be rare). I also like to think they're related to the rules that let the heros recover wounds when nearby models die (as they suck their souls), so unless they want to give a similar rule to every model, spirit stones aren't the way to go.

I would love them to go the "fanatic" way. If you look at the models in bodysuits, the wyches seem to be rushing forward, and the harlequins jump around weightlessly. They could make a unit a bit similar (bodysuit, cc weapon/pistol), but with poses more like the witch aelves, or anything that looks like they're in trance.
They could also wear a few extravagant accessories. A bit like the Visarch's fur, or Yvraine's headwear with the feathers.
I really like face masks, but it won't be that easy to not step too much on the harlequin's toes, as they already have a death-theme going on there (and also a slanesh-looking mask on the solitaire).

Well, the Yncarne is an Avatar of a God so can be discounted, Yvrain is still wearing her Wych suit but with added rune armour and the Visarch is wearing some mysterious armour that harks back to the old empire. I think the Visarch is the one most likely to be a blueprint for what any future Ynnari specific troops will look like, minus the massed Spirit Stones (which aren't rare, all Craftworlders have them already, they're just hard to get) which I imagine would be restricted to HQ choices.

From the "here's a rules pamphlet lolz" approach, looks like as a faction they aren't getting anything!

Keep in mind the stones/gems you're seeing on the models are not actual soul stones. Eldar use stones/runes for almost everything, and they're not actually soul stones -- that would be one per model at most.

If we get anymore Ynnari models I concur with Imateria that they will take the visual cues from the Visarch, would be interesting if they forego Spirit Stones under the belief their souls are saved by Ynnead (or whatever it is claiming to be Ynnead)

Also fingers crossed for less Swirly Gak or Silly hats

Elbows wrote:Keep in mind the stones/gems you're seeing on the models are not actual soul stones. Eldar use stones/runes for almost everything, and they're not actually soul stones -- that would be one per model at most.

Really? That's the case for craftworlders, but I was under the impression that Yvraine and co collected actual spirit stones (they can interact with dead people's souls).

Turnip Jedi wrote:If we get anymore Ynnari models I concur with Imateria that they will take the visual cues from the Visarch, would be interesting if they forego Spirit Stones under the belief their souls are saved by Ynnead (or whatever it is claiming to be Ynnead)

When a craftworlder becomes a Harlequin, he/she leaves his/her spirit stone behind, because their souls go to Cegorach.
A similar thing with Ynnari could make sense, but Ynnead isn't completely formed yet. So I don't know if she's already able to absorb the souls from all dying Ynnaris.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
From the "here's a rules pamphlet lolz" approach, looks like as a faction they aren't getting anything!

Next week also sees the Triumvirate of Ynnead repackaged for the new edition. As well as three awesome character models, this set contains full datasheets for everything inside, as well rules for fielding Ynnari detachments in your army, meaning you won’t need anything else to use them with your Craftworlds codex!

That doesn't necessarily mean they won't be getting anything. It's just them getting repackaged with rules meaning you don't need the Index for fielding the stuff that's in the Craftworlds Codex as a Ynnari Detachment.


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 Amishprn86 wrote:
The Visarch is an Incubi not Kabal, but the faces/lines on him would be cool to add.

The Visarch, from what I remember in Fracturing of Biel-Tan, was a Craftworlder wasn't he? It's been awhile since I read it but I do remember that his armor is from the time when the Aeldari empire was still a thing.

The best way to describe his gear is like how they've done the Wood Elves/Wanderers and their Eternal Guard/Wildwood Rangers and Wild Riders:
It's ancient wargear. It's from when the different branches of the race were the same. You have elements of Craftworld and Dark Eldar designs at the same time.

Not really sure if they will get their own look considering they are too young as a collective to really start mixing armor and gear. Probably be a few thousand years before they really take on their own look.

I've got an undead/halloween eldar army that I've slowly been working on for years, that has become a Yannari since the original concept was fairly simular to begin with.

I hope they don't, not a fan of them lore wise. The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day. Helping gurllymon alone should see them erased from the game.

As a harlequin player i find them very off putting.

clownshoes wrote:
I . The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day

hmmm funny that...(im hoping its actually some oddball trick by Cregorach)

I would imagine Ynnari faction models would be templated off of the Visarch, who himself is a blending of Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar aesthetics.

clownshoes wrote:
I hope they don't, not a fan of them lore wise. The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day. Helping gurllymon alone should see them erased from the game.

As a harlequin player i find them very off putting.

But Slaanesh is a reflection of the Eldar, just as much as Ynnead is. They are both eldar gods. It makes sense for them to share an aesthetic similarity.

 Red_Five wrote:

I would imagine Ynnari faction models would be templated off of the Visarch, who himself is a blending of Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar aesthetics.

clownshoes wrote:
I hope they don't, not a fan of them lore wise. The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day. Helping gurllymon alone should see them erased from the game.

As a harlequin player i find them very off putting.

But Slaanesh is a reflection of the Eldar, just as much as Ynnead is. They are both eldar gods. It makes sense for them to share an aesthetic similarity.

And the Avatar of Khaine is also an Eldar god, and he looks nothing like either.

Ravingbantha wrote:

 Red_Five wrote:

I would imagine Ynnari faction models would be templated off of the Visarch, who himself is a blending of Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar aesthetics.

clownshoes wrote:
I hope they don't, not a fan of them lore wise. The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day. Helping gurllymon alone should see them erased from the game.

As a harlequin player i find them very off putting.

But Slaanesh is a reflection of the Eldar, just as much as Ynnead is. They are both eldar gods. It makes sense for them to share an aesthetic similarity.

And the Avatar of Khaine is also an Eldar god, and he looks nothing like either.

Eh. I'm pretty sure the Slaaneshi appearance and color scheme of the Yncarne is foreshadowing, but to play daemon's advocate...

Khaine has his "horn" thing going on. Cegorach is implied to just look eldar-y but with exaggerated features. The solitaire's mask is basically an eldar interpretation of Slaanesh's visage, and Slaanesh is a god that is eldar in origin. So the Yncarne looking eldar-esque but with a horn doesn't seem that far off. Heck, saw off the horn, and you could probably claim that it's an avatar of any eldar you want... Except maybe Kurnous. What with him being inspired by Cernous the horned god.

I am wondering how GW are even going to make a Ynnari codex. They either are re-printing both Eldar Codexes (minus Special Characters) with the Ynnari characters or are just going to make a mini pamphlet.

I also wonder if the distinctly Sbe-Who-Thirsts overtones of the Ynncari point to a 'ta-da, you've been duped by Chaos!' revelation.

Cue range of Chaos Eldar. :(

 Elbows wrote:
Keep in mind the stones/gems you're seeing on the models are not actual soul stones. Eldar use stones/runes for almost everything, and they're not actually soul stones -- that would be one per model at most.

Thats why i said it be cool to see something different with them, like they are broken or opened up or something.

clownshoes wrote:
The whole death god looks like a slaneesh daemon with a bad hair day.

I quite like the fluff but I am not a fan of the details on the Yncarne. The horn in particular is a big fat NO and I will be removing it when I build mine. I would have prefered something that borrowed the aesthetic of wraithguard and the Spiritseer. Something loping with a blank non-face.

I will settle for removing the horn on mine and painting it up in the same colour scheme I use for my Wraith units. Not perfect but acceptable.

The whole not needing your soulstone when you die, only seems to work when Yvraine is around. When an eldar dies near her, she absorbs them, but it doesn't really seem to cover how it works when she's not around. I'd still be wearing one just in case.