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2017/10/21 22:39:01
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Title sums it up:
Can an officer issue an order while inside a building/vehicle?
Can an order be issues to a unit inside a building?
Bonus points if you have a link t an FAQ or rules text as I've not found it yet
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2017/10/21 22:51:43
Subject: Re:8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Lieutenant General
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From 'Transports', page 183 of the main rulebook:
Embarked units cannot normally do anything or be affected in any way whilst they are embarked. Unless specifically stated, abilities that affect other units within a certain range have no effect whilst the unit that has the ability is embarked.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2017/10/22 03:44:09
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Confessor Of Sins
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There is a Stratagem in the Codex that allows them to do so while embarked in a Chimera. Even has the Chimera function as a Vox Unit for him.
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2017/10/22 03:56:33
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Norn Queen
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alextroy wrote:There is a Stratagem in the Codex that allows them to do so while embarked in a Chimera. Even has the Chimera function as a Vox Unit for him.
Buildings are not Chimeras.
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2017/10/22 04:01:31
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Norn Queen
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alextroy wrote:There is a Stratagem in the Codex that allows them to do so while embarked in a Chimera. Even has the Chimera function as a Vox Unit for him.
That would fall under the "unless specifically stated".
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2017/10/22 10:27:30
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Vehicles I know you can't do stuff to/from if the unit targeted/casting is inside. However this is buildings, which I expect follow the same logic but I want some clarification if possible
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2017/10/22 10:32:24
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Norn Queen
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BroodSpawn wrote:Vehicles I know you can't do stuff to/from if the unit targeted/casting is inside. However this is buildings, which I expect follow the same logic but I want some clarification if possible
The rules for embarking into buildings are the same as vehicles. I don't have my rule book with me but I believe it says something along the lines of them being treated in all ways as transports.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2017/10/22 10:53:40
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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BroodSpawn wrote:Vehicles I know you can't do stuff to/from if the unit targeted/casting is inside. However this is buildings, which I expect follow the same logic but I want some clarification if possible
Which 'buildings' are you referring to? Might help us advise. If it's 'Ruins' then crack on. If it's a named fortification then it will likely follow the rules for transports. The Datasheet will tell you any specific exemption to the Transport rules if applicable.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/10/22 11:55:53
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Nah, I was thinking things like the bastions mainly, not ruins but buildings/fortifications/bunkers.
If they function the same way as transports in all practical regards then that just confirms what I'm thinking.
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2017/10/22 15:04:14
Subject: 8th Imperial Guard Orders in Buildings?
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Confessor Of Sins
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They don't "function" as transports. They literally are transports with the proper rules on their datasheets. They just don't transport very far
This is why I pointed out the AM Stratagem that allows orders to be issued from inside a Chimera. This shows evidence that you can't issue orders from within a transport.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/10/22 15:05:56
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