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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/06/disney-talks-buy-fox-finally-getting-fantastic-four-x-men-rights-back/

It looks like Ike Perlmutter’s longstanding war against Fox for owning the movie rights to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four may finally be coming to an end! According to a report from CNBC, 21st Century Fox has been in talks with Disney in recent weeks to sell most of itself, excluding a small portion of the company to focus on news and sports. That means that the deal, if it happens, would almost certainly include the company’s movie properties, including X-Men and Fantastic Four

Stock for the company shot up in response to the news, leading to it being temporarily frozen.

The report says the talks are on again off again, and currently off again, so there’s no guarantee a deal will happen, but it’s nice to finally see a light at the end of the tunnel for fans of the Fantastic Four, whose book was canceled as a result of tensions with Fox and has yet to return, and the X-Men, who prominence has been reduced since the hostilities between Perlmutter and Fox began.

Mighty is the Mouse indeed.

Oh please stop making gakky Fantastic Four movies. The only thing worse than gakky Fantastic Four movies is the threat of MORE gakky Fantastic Four movies.

Also, holy gak. Disney would own The Simpsons?

Also, they could make a Married With Children theme park. I want to go on the Christina Applegate ride.

Interesting.

 kronk wrote:
Oh please stop making gakky Fantastic Four movies. The only thing worse than gakky Fantastic Four movies is the threat of MORE gakky Fantastic Four movies.

Two points about this:

1. Why would a F4 movie made by Marvel be gakky? The gakky ones are Fox. This would be Fox no longer.
2. In the end the Fantastic Four don't matter. What matters are the things attached to them (Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Kang).

 kronk wrote:
Oh please stop making gakky Fantastic Four movies. The only thing worse than gakky Fantastic Four movies is the threat of MORE gakky Fantastic Four movies.

Also, holy gak. Disney would own The Simpsons?

Also, they could make a Married With Children theme park. I want to go on the Christina Applegate ride.

I agree with all of this. I would take a Married with Children anything, really.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Oh please stop making gakky Fantastic Four movies. The only thing worse than gakky Fantastic Four movies is the threat of MORE gakky Fantastic Four movies.

Two points about this:

1. Why would a F4 movie made by Marvel be gakky? The gakky ones are Fox. This would be Fox no longer.
2. In the end the Fantastic Four don't matter. What matters are the things attached to them (Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Kang).

Well I mean, Reed Richards and Sue Richards made Franklin Richards. That is is pretty important for Marvel. Not sure where the rights would fall with Franklin though, since he is a mutant.....

Well they'd fall with Marvel because everything bar Spider-Man would fall with Marvel if this acquisition went ahead.

If there are real talks about selling 21st Century FOX to Disney, it is a hell of a lot bigger than the Fantastic Four.

... distribution rights to Star Wars, plus Titanic, Avatar, Independence Day, Alien, Predator, ...

 sebster wrote:
If there are real talks about selling 21st Century FOX to Disney, it is a hell of a lot bigger than the Fantastic Four.

Obviously, but gakky F4 movies, The Simspons, and Christina Applegate from Married with Children were the first to come to mind.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Oh please stop making gakky Fantastic Four movies. The only thing worse than gakky Fantastic Four movies is the threat of MORE gakky Fantastic Four movies.

Two points about this:

1. Why would a F4 movie made by Marvel be gakky? The gakky ones are Fox. This would be Fox no longer.
2. In the end the Fantastic Four don't matter. What matters are the things attached to them (Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Kang).

H.B.M.C. is mostly right there - Marvel FINALLY getting the rights to the FF back would mean chances are good that we'd FINALLY get a good FF movie!

It's going to be so irritating if the Fantastic Four and X-Men return to the MCU right after the Infinity Gauntlet happens without them.

Still, it might be nice to finally see a Fantastic Four movie that isn't awful. Since it started in their comic, perhaps Marvel Zombies might be a nice consolation prize.

Storm in a tea cup folks,

Seems it all fell apart and is now done.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/fox/53134/fox-and-disney-were-discussing-a-merger

"It also seems as though Fox initiated the talks, and likely remains interested in getting rid of its film division. "

Could be good, could be bad. Depends on who buys it, I suppose.

I still must be the only marvel fanboy who actually likes the Iain, Evans, Chicklis and Alba F4. I’ve rewatched it multiple times since I saw all the hate about it on Dakka, and still can’t figure out what’s wrong with it.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I still must be the only marvel fanboy who actually likes the Iain, Evans, Chicklis and Alba F4. I’ve rewatched it multiple times since I saw all the hate about it on Dakka, and still can’t figure out what’s wrong with it.

You're not the only one. I used to own both of those F4 movies. I never thought they were on the same level as the MCU, but they were at least as enjoyable as X-men and X2
I have yet to see the new F4 movie, but that was less about how bad everyone says it is and more about how I just don't understand why they needed the reboot (I know now that it was just to keep the rights).

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It is "OK" and I say this as a HUGE Fantastic Four fan.

Dr. Doom's origin - and antics - aren't...great.

The Thing effects aren't...great.

It's just OK.

But it needed to be...Fantastic!

And *some* of FF2 is "OK" too (Surfer is good and Doom is better this time around), but their version of "Galactus"?

Ugh.

 kronk wrote:
Obviously, but gakky F4 movies, The Simspons, and Christina Applegate from Married with Children were the first to come to mind.

That's fair, though really Christina Applegate from Married with Children is one of the first things to come to mind no matter what the topic is.

 Alpharius wrote:
but their version of "Galactus"?

Ugh.

I'd love to have seen the planning meetings where they decided Galactus was cool enough to be the villain, but decided he would play better onscreen as a giant fart cloud.

It's not ideal, but I don't think I could take any alternative where Galactus was any sort of solid physical entity seriously. Certainly not a purple man in a silly hat.

I think Dr. Strange did pretty well with Dormammu, kind of a hybrid between the two.

This is all rather confusing.

Rupert Murdoch and family are heavily involved in both 20th Century Fox and Sky. Fox are trying to buy up Sky, but there are regulatory problems there; there are rumours that Sky News could be shut down if that proves a problem.

At the same time, Fox are trying to shift most of their business - except news and sports, it seems, and including Sky - to Disney (or anyone else who wants it).

 sebster wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Obviously, but gakky F4 movies, The Simspons, and Christina Applegate from Married with Children were the first to come to mind.

That's fair, though really Christina Applegate from Married with Children is one of the first things to come to mind no matter what the topic is.

I enjoyed her performance in The Sweetest Thing

Regarding Galactus, doesn't his form shift based on the viewer?

Also, if the stuff about Sky and Fox is true, does that mean there is way more money in "Infotainment" than actual entertainment now?

They went more Gah Lak Tus (Ultimate Universe) with the movies. Given how many bits of the Ultimate universe were borrowed, I think the cloud in a thinematic setting made more sense than a giant pink and purple man.

And yet, it still came off as bad - and worse than a 'real' Galactus would have been.

But who knows?

Given the Thing 'special effects', maybe not.

Still, the combined power of Disney and Fox an modern tech?

They could pull it off now!

It's sad that the Chris Columbus FF movie did Doom and the Thing better than the modern movies. Everything else sucked, but those two were the absolute gems of that movie. I still get giddy when Doom steps into the light for the first time. It's like the comics came to life.

I almost think a miniseries would be the way to go for FF, rather than a film. Instead of trying to cram the origin story, the rise of Doom, the family drama and a few superpower throw-downs into 2 hours, spread it over 6-10 hour-long episodes.

A lot of FF stuff, due to their nature as a family of heroes, is essentially a drama with comic book elements over the top, and that's hard to cram into a film, especially one that insists on retelling the origin story and throwing in one of Marvel's greatest and most complex villains from the start (you could build a whole 'phase' of MCU movies around a Doom storyline, easily). I'm not saying string it out to 23 or even 13 episodes like most shows, keep it as a miniseries so you have time to really focus on the characters beneath the suits, who are a lot more complex than any of the films have managed to convey.

Partly I guess because they're not as archetypal as a lot of other heroes. Cap is a Big Damn Hero who will always do the right thing. Spidey is a Regular Guy Just Like You. Stark is the eccentric billionaire. Aside from maybe Johnny Storm as the cocky hotshot, it's hard to pigeonhole the rest of the FF as neatly. Likewise with Doom, you need to handle him like they've built up Magneto across the X-men series; yes, he's ostensibly the villain, but charismatic and nuanced enough that at times you can't help but see things his way.

I think Marvel could probably pull off a decent FF when they get the rights back, but I'm not sure films are the way to do it, at least initially.

The deal isn't completely dead. Talks just aren't on at the moment. It's not as if they stormed out of the meeting room or anything.

 Ouze wrote:
It's going to be so irritating if the Fantastic Four and X-Men return to the MCU right after the Infinity Gauntlet happens without them.

Still, it might be nice to finally see a Fantastic Four movie that isn't awful. Since it started in their comic, perhaps Marvel Zombies might be a nice consolation prize.

I hope the X-Men never enter the MCU.

Is anyone else starting to feel a bit concerned about Disney's seemingly unstoppable conquest of big budget entertainment?

I'm starting to feel a bit concerned XD

Time Warners owns most of it anyway, so this is just Disney catching up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Time Warners owns most of it anyway, so this is just Disney catching up.

And I'm already concerned about Time Warner XD