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2017/11/10 00:10:03
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action streamed TV series.
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To the great surprise of no one at all;
http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy
For director Rian Johnson, Star Wars: The Last Jedi was just the beginning of his journey in a galaxy far, far away.
Lucasfilm is excited to announce that Johnson will create a brand-new Star Wars trilogy, the first of which he is also set to write and direct, with longtime collaborator Ram Bergman onboard to produce.
As writer-director of The Last Jedi, Johnson conceived and realized a powerful film of which Lucasfilm and Disney are immensely proud. In shepherding this new trilogy, which is separate from the episodic Skywalker saga, Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored.
“We all loved working with Rian on The Last Jedi,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm. “He’s a creative force, and watching him craft The Last Jedi from start to finish was one of the great joys of my career. Rian will do amazing things with the blank canvas of this new trilogy.”
“We had the time of our lives collaborating with Lucasfilm and Disney on The Last Jedi,” Johnson and Bergman said in a joint statement. “Star Wars is the greatest modern mythology and we feel very lucky to have contributed to it. We can’t wait to continue with this new series of films.”
Johnson’s upcoming Star Wars: The Last Jedi arrives in U.S. theaters on Dec. 15, 2017.
No release dates have been set for the new films, and no porgs were available for comment.
TV show info;
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/9/16631218/disney-star-wars-live-action-television-show-streaming-service
Milk that cash cow Disney.
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2017/11/10 00:19:04
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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ingtaer wrote:Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored.
Do they mean just the new Disney lore? Because in the old Lucasfilm days there was not much that hadn't been covered in some way.
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2017/11/10 00:29:16
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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Its not really clear, I was thinking the same thing and could only come up with the Core as really not explored, everything else has been featured quite well in the old books and RPGs. I am intrigued to know how they are going to make this Star Wars other than just the name, kind of like how the new Star Trek series is pretty much generic Sci-Fi with a faint ST skin.
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2017/11/10 00:58:16
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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To be honest if we can get more non Skywalker/Jedi based movies that do explore more of the Star Wars galaxy I am for it. I will be keeping any eye out for what they do.
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2017/11/10 01:44:16
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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People keep saying stuff like this like it's a bad thing. As long as they're decent on the whole, getting a Star Wars movie every year for the next twenty sounds brilliant to me, but then I'm weird apparently because when I like something I typically enjoy getting more of it and have no deep burning desire to see it go away or fundamentally change when I'm personally bored of it.
It's the same with this "superhero fatigue" nonsense - watch the films, if you stop enjoying them stop watching them, if enough people do that they'll stop making them. Why this need to anticipate a potential future possibility that they might maybe get bad one day I just don't understand.
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2017/11/10 02:02:56
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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Well mate, personally I have no issues what so ever with releasing new stuff and think its great that they do so as I love Star Wars, I have an issue if I think its crap, I hated TFA for example and thought it was just a worse version of a New Hope. However I loved Rogue One. That's why I am interested to see if they can retain the Star Wars feel and not just have it as a thin veneer of gloss over the top of what they make. I will judge each film on its own merits and as I play X-Wing a lot I get the extra joy of having new toys from each one! (even if I think the films rubbish).
Incidentally there is also talk of Disney releasing a live action TV series as well, I have not been able to pin down an actual source but there is a lot of chatter about it, I guess due to the ending of Rebels.
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2017/11/10 03:34:31
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced.
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Whole new trilogy? Unexplored areas?
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2017/11/10 04:00:45
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Updated the OP with a link I found about the TV show, though the information is limited to the fact it will be streamed by Disney on their own platform.
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2017/11/10 12:58:30
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Very exciting news. I was just discussing the other day whether they'd go straight on to an X/XI/XII trilogy or do something different, and now we have an answer...
I can't help but wonder if this 'unexplored' area might just be the Old Republic, which has had no coverage in new-Canon besides a few references in Rebels/Clone Wars. With Episode VIII's trailers heavily implying that Rey and Kylo are both moving away from the Light/Dark or Jedi/Sith dynamic, now would be the perfect time to revisit the badass who was doing that before it was cool, Revan. The Old Republic would definitely both require and amply fill a trilogy of films rather than a single anthology movie.
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2017/11/10 14:02:22
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Old Republic would be a cool setting, but I'm not sure they could do the Revan reveal justice if they went with a KotOR story. it was timed so well in the game, especially when the mask comes off and you see the face.
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2017/11/10 14:19:50
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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So does this indirectly confirm that Rey is a Skywalker?
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2017/11/10 14:45:19
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Not really.
Luke, Leia and arguably Kylo Ren all continue the Skywalker bloodline.
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2017/11/10 14:54:19
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Paradigm wrote:Very exciting news. I was just discussing the other day whether they'd go straight on to an X/XI/XII trilogy or do something different, and now we have an answer...
I can't help but wonder if this 'unexplored' area might just be the Old Republic, which has had no coverage in new-Canon besides a few references in Rebels/Clone Wars. With Episode VIII's trailers heavily implying that Rey and Kylo are both moving away from the Light/Dark or Jedi/Sith dynamic, now would be the perfect time to revisit the badass who was doing that before it was cool, Revan. The Old Republic would definitely both require and amply fill a trilogy of films rather than a single anthology movie.
While Disney may take ideas, I would expect them to ignore any of the novels or universe in total.
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2017/11/10 17:13:15
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Given Whiney is Annie's grandkid, there isn't anything to argue there. He totally does.
An unexplored area leaves a lot open. They've got a entire galaxy, even if they've shown off parts of the outer rim and the other relatively unexplored sectors, there are still huge swaths that they haven't. I just hope they don't pull a voyager and stick random characters with familiar tags in what amounts to a completely different setting, lost and alone.
Or find a galaxy ending threat 'out there'
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2017/11/10 17:22:35
Subject: Re:New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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This is really a shame. Can we vote against this or something? A whole host of starwars movies as bad as TFA would be a real disgrace to starwars.
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2017/11/10 17:41:03
Subject: Re:New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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The problem here is not a new Star Wars trilogy.
The problem is that the new trilogy will have to be run past a 10 man Disney committee and 14 different focus groups before it gets the green light.
You can't make films like that
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2017/11/10 18:26:55
Subject: Re:New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:The problem here is not a new Star Wars trilogy.
The problem is that the new trilogy will have to be run past a 10 man Disney committee and 14 different focus groups before it gets the green light.
You can't make films like that
Disney has a long track record of making hits though, and lets face it, Star Wars is typically oriented towards children and the child in all of us.
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2017/11/10 18:35:49
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Pirates of the Johnny Depp 1-3 were thoroughly enjoyable and shows that Disney could do another trilogy just fine.
Pirates 4 the search for more gold sucked and shows that even Depp can't fix a gakky movie. I haven't seen Pirates 5.
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2017/11/10 19:03:32
Subject: Re:New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Xenomancers wrote:This is really a shame. Can we vote against this or something? A whole host of starwars movies as bad as TFA would be a real disgrace to starwars.
You can do what I do and vote with your feet and not watch it.
I'll take the phantom menace over TFA any day of the year! Automatically Appended Next Post: Frazzled wrote: Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:The problem here is not a new Star Wars trilogy.
The problem is that the new trilogy will have to be run past a 10 man Disney committee and 14 different focus groups before it gets the green light.
You can't make films like that
Disney has a long track record of making hits though, and lets face it, Star Wars is typically oriented towards children and the child in all of us.
That may be, but that doesn't mean I'll waste my money on any old horsegak.
God almighty, I miss the 1980s. So many good films that we took for granted.
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2017/11/10 21:25:32
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See, or see not.
There is no whine.
You do not own Star Wars. I do not own Star Wars. Disney own Star Wars. And you can bet your khyber crystals they’ll keep popping them out so long as it remains profitable to do so.
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2017/11/10 21:36:25
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:See, or see not. There is no whine. You do not own Star Wars. I do not own Star Wars. Disney own Star Wars. And you can bet your khyber crystals they’ll keep popping them out so long as it remains profitable to do so.
So in other words, the only way to stop the train is if we all get off. Show Disney what you want with your wallet. But considering the size of the fan-base, not enough people doing this will matter and SW will keep being profitable for Disney. You either drink the Kool-Aid or leave the party. Either way, the Kool-Aid keeps coming. -
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2017/11/10 21:39:58
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And aimlessly deriding the movies which are clearly extremely popular will change that how?
It’s not about ‘us’ stopping the train. I’ve got my ticket and I’ve taken my seat. But if you don’t want to see new Star Wars films, then don’t see them.
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2017/11/10 21:58:59
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:And aimlessly deriding the movies which are clearly extremely popular will change that how?
It’s not about ‘us’ stopping the train. I’ve got my ticket and I’ve taken my seat. But if you don’t want to see new Star Wars films, then don’t see them.
Bingo. I'll continue buying those tickets as long as the movies keep coming. it doesn't make sense to me that so many people keep complaining about TFA or R1. Neither were perfect, but both were good and have plenty of replay value.
Clearly I am in the vast majority who also thought so and thus Disney will keep pumping them out.
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2017/11/13 04:55:00
Subject: Re:New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Xenomancers wrote:This is really a shame. Can we vote against this or something? A whole host of starwars movies as bad as TFA would be a real disgrace to starwars.
It's probably worth waiting to see how Ep8 turns out before making any pre-judgements on how good a trilogy made by the sameg guy is likely to be...
Frankly, I would rather they make more Star Wars movies that may or may not be good than not make any new Star Wars movies... because the former has the potential to result in more good Star Wars movies, and the latter doesn't.
And, at the end of the day, the existence of bad Star Wars movies doesn't stop you from watching and enjoying the good ones.
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2017/11/13 05:11:28
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Yodhrin wrote:
People keep saying stuff like this like it's a bad thing. As long as they're decent on the whole, getting a Star Wars movie every year for the next twenty sounds brilliant to me, but then I'm weird apparently because when I like something I typically enjoy getting more of it and have no deep burning desire to see it go away or fundamentally change when I'm personally bored of it.
It's the same with this "superhero fatigue" nonsense - watch the films, if you stop enjoying them stop watching them, if enough people do that they'll stop making them. Why this need to anticipate a potential future possibility that they might maybe get bad one day I just don't understand.
"As long as they're decent on the whole..." Er, uh. Hmm.
The problem is that by the time enough fans have spoken with their wallets, you've got a Nemesis, an AVP2 or a Prometheus that damages the entire brand and harms even the early, best range of narrative for the millions who love it. Automatically Appended Next Post: But the existence of bad Star Wars movies really can cause the fans not to watch the good movies again. The first season of Lost was very fine TV by all accounts, but after the gak that followed how many people rewatch Lost? How many new fans willingly start a series the know will end in crap?
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2017/11/13 08:23:23
Subject: New Star Wars Trilogy announced and live action stremed TV series.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Nonsense, those things aren't even close to equivalent.
Lost is a complete linked narrative, you *must* watch the entire thing to experience the entire story, so if any one part of that narrative is garbage it taints the whole. The Star Wars films are either self-contained narratives or at worst are *inextricably* linked to another two films in their trilogy. You can watch the prequels, or the OT, or the NT without ever even knowing the others existed and not feel like you'd been left hanging(at least I assume so for the NT). You could go in totally cold and watch Rogue One and enjoy it as a standalone sci-fi movie. There's no reason to assume that won't hold true going forward - all the films will sit within the broader themes, tone, and aesthetic of the setting with the trilogies being self-contained narratives even if they nominally continue some great overarching "saga" and the anthologies will be standalone narratives that can be tied in to the overall "saga" experience if you so choose.
To go back to the superhero comparison; Inhumans was a hot, steamy, rank pile of garbage, I will likely never watch it again, but has it killed the MCU? Has it even managed to taint Agents of SHIELD, which gave it a soft-setup, by association? Is it going to make a fan of the Marvel Netflix shows less keen to watch The Punisher?
Star Wars isn't a niche sci-fi horror series that covered everything interesting about the concept decades ago and should have stopped there, nor is it owned by a corporation that doesn't really have any idea what to do with it nor any regard whatsoever for its existing fans - a single critical or commercial flop isn't even going to be noticed by Disney, even several total flops wouldn't affect the viability of the franchise providing they're interspersed sufficiently rarely into an otherwise good collection of films and shows.
I wasn't particularly enamoured of TFA, that didn't stop Rogue One from becoming one of my favourite films, nor did it make me like Rebels any less. Even if the whole NT turns out to be gak, that's only going to sour the NT for me not Star Wars as a whole.
Nemesis killed classic-Trek because it was a massive commercial flop and CBS/Paramount don't have a clue what kind of franchise Trek is and who its audience are(as evidenced by STD). Even a mediocre Star Wars film is unlikely to totally bomb, not unless it's just the latest in a sequence of several commercially disappointing entries into the franchise.
Disney spent a lot of cash getting hold of Star Wars, it would have to be a sustained disaster for multiple years for them to pull the plug on the franchise.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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2017/11/13 09:01:17
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:
But the existence of bad Star Wars movies really can cause the fans not to watch the good movies again. The first season of Lost was very fine TV by all accounts, but after the gak that followed how many people rewatch Lost? How many new fans willingly start a series the know will end in crap?
You're comparing a TV series with a single ongoing storyline to a series of movies that, while following a common storyline are also reasonably self contained. A better analogy would be asking how many people were put off rewatching DS9 after Enterprise happened. (Or, you know, totally didn't... )
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2017/11/13 09:50:31
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Thought I would correct the spelling mistake in title, surprised no one pointed it out.
I feel its quite a dishonest comparison that some people are making, the elder generation has widely condemned both the prequel trilogy and GL's reedited original trilogy as being terrible, but they in no way killed the franchise. It is impossible to judge what damage they may have done but I have spoken to adults who really have really enjoyed both the Clone Wars and Rebels series but hated the PT. Surely one has to judge each and every offering by its own merits and not on the merit of a previous film?
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2017/11/13 13:01:29
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We'll find out soon enough eh.
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ingtaer wrote:Thought I would correct the spelling mistake in title, surprised no one pointed it out.
I feel its quite a dishonest comparison that some people are making, the elder generation has widely condemned both the prequel trilogy and GL's reedited original trilogy as being terrible, but they in no way killed the franchise. It is impossible to judge what damage they may have done but I have spoken to adults who really have really enjoyed both the Clone Wars and Rebels series but hated the PT. Surely one has to judge each and every offering by its own merits and not on the merit of a previous film?
I think it is actually fair to judge all the components of a single inextricably-linked narrative as a whole, and justifiable to like the whole less if one of those parts is particularly awful. It's just that, as I said above and you mention yourself, Star Wars is made up of multiple fairly self-contained "blocks" of narrative(the individual TV series, the individual anthology movies, and the various trilogies) so there's no reason any single "block" falling flat with the audience or failing to measure up commercially should endanger the franchise as a whole.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2017/11/13 13:52:04
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
People keep saying stuff like this like it's a bad thing. As long as they're decent on the whole, getting a Star Wars movie every year for the next twenty sounds brilliant to me, but then I'm weird apparently because when I like something I typically enjoy getting more of it and have no deep burning desire to see it go away or fundamentally change when I'm personally bored of it.
It's the same with this "superhero fatigue" nonsense - watch the films, if you stop enjoying them stop watching them, if enough people do that they'll stop making them. Why this need to anticipate a potential future possibility that they might maybe get bad one day I just don't understand.
"As long as they're decent on the whole..." Er, uh. Hmm.
The problem is that by the time enough fans have spoken with their wallets, you've got a Nemesis, an AVP2 or a Prometheus that damages the entire brand and harms even the early, best range of narrative for the millions who love it.
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But the existence of bad Star Wars movies really can cause the fans not to watch the good movies again. The first season of Lost was very fine TV by all accounts, but after the gak that followed how many people rewatch Lost? How many new fans willingly start a series the know will end in crap?
Twaddle.
I loathe The Phantom Menace. So much wasted time and opportunity.
Hasn't stopped me going back and enjoying the original Trilogy, Droids, Ewoks and the two Ewok Movies.
If someone takes sufficient umbrage at a new film that they refuse to watch any others linked? They might want to talk to a professional, because that's not particularly normal behaviour.
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