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I'm still writing up my idea on a post-40K setting similar to the Age of Sigmar but in the 40K universe. Long story short, the new Astartes are basically "Primaris Grey Knights" whose staple weapon is a "psychic bolt rifle". It has the following profile:

Range: 30" / Rapid Fire 1 / Str: 4 / AP: -1 / Damage 1 / Wound rolls of 6 are resolved at AP-4 instead of AP-1.

It takes the Bolt Rifle from Primaris Intecessors (?) and mixes it with Aeldari Shuriken weapon traits. As if the post-Imperial humans have taken the Bolt Rifle and fused it with Aeldari psychic technology to create something brand new (they do this a lot now, in my concept).

How fair could such a weapon be? That's what I'm asking myself. Perhaps in a setting where the Emperor is (sort of) back, Chaos is in shambles, and the Tyranids have a Kerrigan-like figure leading them, who gives a rats about fair!

That's gonna cost more than a few points.

The boltgun is the basic gun that all other major weapons were built in contrast to. If you up the power of the boltgun, all the other guns need a boost too. In the case, you'll need to figure out the value of exploding sixes in troops, which is pretty big.

It could be completely bonkers OP or insanely tame or anywhere in between. You say you're doing a system rewrite? So we'd need the system to compare it to.

Also as a side note, the nids having a kerrigan-like figure is terrible and takes away everything thats good about the nids.

And if humanity is my psionically active then chaos itself would be stronger not weaker.

Kerrigan-like in abilities, not in the sense that would necessitate a Blizzard lawsuit. Game wise it would have a lot of abilities.

It isn't sorted yet but the majority of humanity moves to the Webway. With the Emperor's own psychic power and Aeldari technology, he creates Astartes 3.0, aka the Astartes Sanctori.

Think of it like the Christian Rapture - the good guys (Big E, most Astartes, most good humans) move there, but the bad ones (jerks like Marines Malevolent, most of the Inquisition, and ALL of the Echlessiarchy) stay in the physical world. The worst of humanity is left behind.

Also the Alpha Legion might be deep-cover loyalists after all. But alas, all of this is TBA and will be told in a later topic.

NeoAigaion wrote:
I'm still writing up my idea on a post-40K setting similar to the Age of Sigmar but in the 40K universe. Long story short, the new Astartes are basically "Primaris Grey Knights" whose staple weapon is a "psychic bolt rifle". It has the following profile:

Range: 30" / Rapid Fire 1 / Str: 4 / AP: -1 / Damage 1 / Wound rolls of 6 are resolved at AP-4 instead of AP-1.

It takes the Bolt Rifle from Primaris Intecessors (?) and mixes it with Aeldari Shuriken weapon traits. As if the post-Imperial humans have taken the Bolt Rifle and fused it with Aeldari psychic technology to create something brand new (they do this a lot now, in my concept).

How fair could such a weapon be? That's what I'm asking myself. Perhaps in a setting where the Emperor is (sort of) back, Chaos is in shambles, and the Tyranids have a Kerrigan-like figure leading them, who gives a rats about fair!

My response: assuming that point costs remained the same, how would it be an improvement against hordes? Okay you've killed that 4 point model *absolutely* dead. But there's 25 more of them (after morale) and still not budging while their specialist weapons pummel the crap out of you. I just don't see marines as being 'anti-heavy infantry'. Marines should be good (per point) at all aspects, and this would do nothing for them vs hordes/average troopers.

It makes them better vs Elites but my question is why you think that's the best move for a Primaris Grey Knight.

I'd more imagine an Assault 3 Carbine instead they'd be using.

NeoAigaion wrote:
Kerrigan-like in abilities, not in the sense that would necessitate a Blizzard lawsuit. Game wise it would have a lot of abilities.

It isn't sorted yet but the majority of humanity moves to the Webway. With the Emperor's own psychic power and Aeldari technology, he creates Astartes 3.0, aka the Astartes Sanctori.

Think of it like the Christian Rapture - the good guys (Big E, most Astartes, most good humans) move there, but the bad ones (jerks like Marines Malevolent, most of the Inquisition, and ALL of the Echlessiarchy) stay in the physical world. The worst of humanity is left behind.

Also the Alpha Legion might be deep-cover loyalists after all. But alas, all of this is TBA and will be told in a later topic.

I meant that what is great about the tyranids is the faceless collective consciousness that is the hive mind. Having a single entity leading the tyranids like the overmind or kerrigan ruins THAT. There is no, and never should be, a singular entity that runs the nids. It;s the collective that does it.

 Lance845 wrote:

NeoAigaion wrote:
Kerrigan-like in abilities, not in the sense that would necessitate a Blizzard lawsuit. Game wise it would have a lot of abilities.

It isn't sorted yet but the majority of humanity moves to the Webway. With the Emperor's own psychic power and Aeldari technology, he creates Astartes 3.0, aka the Astartes Sanctori.

Think of it like the Christian Rapture - the good guys (Big E, most Astartes, most good humans) move there, but the bad ones (jerks like Marines Malevolent, most of the Inquisition, and ALL of the Echlessiarchy) stay in the physical world. The worst of humanity is left behind.

Also the Alpha Legion might be deep-cover loyalists after all. But alas, all of this is TBA and will be told in a later topic.

I meant that what is great about the tyranids is the faceless collective consciousness that is the hive mind. Having a single entity leading the tyranids like the overmind or kerrigan ruins THAT. There is no, and never should be, a singular entity that runs the nids. It;s the collective that does it.

Fair enough. "Cut off one head, infinity more take its place." Faceless and (near-)numberless. I like it. Maybe they could have a "break in case of emergency" instead. Something that is brought out when even the Swarmlord is not enough.

On topic, what if the Psybolt Rifle was 30" RF1 S5 AP-1 D1? No Shuriken-like abilities, just increased strength, like the old Psybolt Ammo. Aeldari tech could still be used, but for lore reasons.