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Heya!

Recently started with 40k again after a 20 year break and this time I want to try World Eaters. Playing in a group where all factions/armies are represented. So this is my plan for a 1500 start up army:

Lord follows the Bikers and gets as fast as possible into enemy lines.

Exalted Champion with Collar rides the Rhino with 9 Berzerkers.

Exalted Champion with Talisman joins the big squad of Berzerkers.

Predator and Helbrutes try soften stuff up from a while Helbrutes close in.

I'd love some feedback on this list as I haven't played in many, many years.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [84 PL, 1499pts] ++


+ HQ +

Chaos Lord on Bike [7 PL, 127pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power axe, Slaughterborn, Warlord

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 77pts]: Brass Collar of Borghaster, Chainsword, Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 82pts]: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power axe, Talisman of Burning Blood


+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [9 PL, 104pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainaxe
. 4x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Missile launcher


Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 172pts]
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainaxe
. 4x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 4x Chainaxe
. 4x Chainsword and bolt pistol
. Chainsword and plasma pistol: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 83pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne


Khorne Berzerkers [13 PL, 247pts]
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 7x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 7x Chainaxe
. 7x Chainsword and bolt pistol


+ Elites +

Helbrute [7 PL, 162pts]: Helbrute fist, Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 142pts]: Mark of Khorne, Multi-melta, Power scourge


+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Bikers [9 PL, 111pts]: Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Chaos Biker: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter
. Chaos Biker Champion: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter


+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 192pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon


++ Total: [84 PL, 1499pts] ++

Hi there,

Alright so a few things that I can see:
1. Exalted champions - they are essentially a worse dark apostle, dark apostle costs 1 extra point and had a 4+ invuln and reroll hits (which imo is insanely better than reroll wounds)
2. Bikers - I've played with bikers and they are unfortunately not very good, yes they get good movement and shooty sometimes but if you're building world eaters you wanna be in their face and they are simply not as good as berserkers.
3. CSM - so the issue I have with CSM's is that they are just worse berserkers, if you want troops, more berserkers is the way to go, not only do they still get bolt pistols but they are the best melee unit in the game.
4. More rhinos - people know that berserkers are the best unit in the game in melee and will blow that gak up before it gets to them, rhinos are a point efficient and strong choice to keep them safe, not to mention that you can charge the rhinos in and take overwatch for your berserkers and tie up important targets with them (tanks, dreads, etc.)

Glad to see more world eaters out there!

Great feedback!

I do have points to replace the Exalted Champions with two Dark Apostles even though they are 7 pts more a piece.

The Bikers was more or less just a way of delivering the Lord into combat faster. Replace with Warp Talons and give the boss a Jump Pack instead?

Maybe you could drop the CSM and the bikes, and just take 2 rhinos for your 'zerkers instead. The spare points can go into even more 'zerkers.

The Lord on Bike is OK, and if he follows the Rhinos he's pretty safe.
Remember: Turn 1 your rhinos usually advance and shoot their smoke launchers, so their movement should be about the same.

Gwlyddyn wrote:
Great feedback!

I do have points to replace the Exalted Champions with two Dark Apostles even though they are 7 pts more a piece.

The Bikers was more or less just a way of delivering the Lord into combat faster. Replace with Warp Talons and give the boss a Jump Pack instead?

If you're looking for a way to deliver the lord and have him survive a long time with the collar then a terminator lord is just sick, teleport him in if you want him in combat, teleport him into safety if you need him to stay alive for the collar/objectives, also you can give him unholy fortitude and he then has 7 wounds and 6+++ FNP. Also another solid choice for an HQ is the Daemon Prince, especially with the new weapon SKULLREAVER coming out. Stats below, I'm taking it as soon as it's officially out for the daemon codex.

Skullreaver:

+3 Str, -4 AP, D6 Damage, on wound rolls of 6+ it deals d3 mortal wounds on top of regular damage, also reroll wound rolls against titanic models. With a khorne daemon prince it's nasty, 6 attacks on a charge, hitting 99% of the time, wounding on 2's and 3's for everything in the game minus titanic models.

Some changes made.

What I am now thinking about is the single Heavy Support I have; The Predator. Would I benefit to swap it for a Defiler? Even though worse at shooting the Defiler should have better survivability with the 5+ Inv and can also Melee pretty well.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) ++

Legion: World Eaters

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour: 3. Unholy Fortitude, Combi-melta, Mark of Khorne, Power axe, Talisman of Burning Blood, Warlord

Dark Apostle: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Power maul, The Black Mace

Dark Apostle: Brass Collar of Borghaster, Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul


+ Elites +

Helbrute: Helbrute fist, Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon

Helbrute: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Reaper autocannon


+ Fast Attack +

Warp Talons: Mark of Khorne
4x Warp Talon: 4x Lightning Claw (pair)
Warp Talon Champion: Lightning Claw (pair)

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists: Mark of Khorne
7x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
7x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Khorne Berzerkers: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Power axe
3x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 3x Chainaxe
3x Chainsword and bolt pistol
Chainsword and plasma pistol: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Chainsword and plasma pistol: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne


Khorne Berzerkers: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion: Chainaxe, Plasma pistol
6x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 6x Chainaxe
6x Chainsword and bolt pistol
Chainsword and plasma pistol: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Chainsword and plasma pistol: Chainsword, Plasma pistol


+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator: Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon
Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon


++ Total: [78 PL, 1499pts] ++

Also, taking two artifacts will cost you a CP. But the list looks good nonetheless.

So what's the job of the termie lord in your new list? You have two berserker squads presumably accompanied by the dark apostles so you're already re-rolling in HTH.

That comment above about the apostle being better than the exalted ... it's not one or the other - you want to take both! Keep those two squads close together and have an apostle in one rhino and the Ex-champ in the other. Assuming you can keep them within 6" of each other everyone is getting re-rolls to hit and re-rolls to wound and absolutely blenderizing things like you've never seen.

If you want an escort for this helbrutes a Khorne lord on a Juggernaut (from the index now) has the same speed, lets them reroll ones, and makes that group into a nasty little force that must be dealt with if you keep them together.

Just started running a world eaters army my self. Some things I have learned so far:

Drop the bolt pistols from your berserkers, and take a chain axe instead, this is still guna let you keep your extra attack from a chain sword, but you are going to get 2 chain axe attacks at s: 6 ap: -1 and 2 chain sword attacks. This ends up much better for just shredding units. Then attack again (if it’s even still alive)

For your champions in those berserker units, powerfists are BRITAL! And worth the points even more then on a lord imo. Yeah your hitting on 4, but you are re rolling because of apostle. That 8 powerfist attacks on the charge. You will one round things with the champ alone.

And for sure drop the second apostle for a exalted champ, refilling to wounds is brutal, just keep the two squads together as best you can, and they will kill anything they touch.

Warp talons where a great choice, they have done work for me.

My question is also, what is your lord doing for you? Now, IMO, if you drop the hell brutes( unless you just want to run them) and take a squad or two of obliterators, then he is worth it, otherwise. You are probably way better off with a Desmond prince with wing.

 Dyslexican32 wrote:
Just started running a world eaters army my self. Some things I have learned so far:

Drop the bolt pistols from your berserkers, and take a chain axe instead, this is still guna let you keep your extra attack from a chain sword, but you are going to get 2 chain axe attacks at s: 6 ap: -1 and 2 chain sword attacks. This ends up much better for just shredding units. Then attack again (if it’s even still alive)

For your champions in those berserker units, powerfists are BRITAL! And worth the points even more then on a lord imo. Yeah your hitting on 4, but you are re rolling because of apostle. That 8 powerfist attacks on the charge. You will one round things with the champ alone.

And for sure drop the second apostle for a exalted champ, refilling to wounds is brutal, just keep the two squads together as best you can, and they will kill anything they touch.

Warp talons where a great choice, they have done work for me.

My question is also, what is your lord doing for you? Now, IMO, if you drop the hell brutes( unless you just want to run them) and take a squad or two of obliterators, then he is worth it, otherwise. You are probably way better off with a Desmond prince with wing.

While I like the daemon prince, the Khorne version is over priced. It loses level 2 psyker for a single extra attack. Not a great trade-off. Maybe after the daemon codex comes out and the prince gets access to the relics it'll be better.

Honestly I just picked the Terminator Lord because Terminator Armor is big, bulky and cool looking. Not really a logical choice..

So. This is the latest edit of the list. Am I getting close?


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord on Juggernaut of Khorne: Unholy Fortitude, Bladed horn on Juggernaut of Khorne, Chainaxe, Plasma pistol, Talisman of Burning Blood, Warlord

Dark Apostle: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

Exalted Champion: Brass Collar of Borghaster, Chainaxe, Chainsword, Mark of Khorne

+ Elites +

Helbrute: Helbrute fist, Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon

Helbrute: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Reaper autocannon

+ Fast Attack +

Warp Talons: Mark of Khorne
. 4x Warp Talon: 4x Lightning Claw (pair)
. Warp Talon Champion: Lightning Claw (pair)

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists: Mark of Khorne
. 7x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. 7x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Khorne Berzerkers: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist.
. 6x Chainsword and Chainaxe.
. 2x Chainsword and plasma pistol.
. Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Khorne Berzerkers: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist.
. 6x Chainsword and Chainaxe.
. 2x Chainsword and plasma pistol.
. Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne


+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator: Mark of Khorne, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon


++ Total: [79 PL, 1498pts] ++

I like it.