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Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

A lot of Regionals results are filtering in on List Juggler, and it seems that variations on a lit I had come upon in early December have been making the top 8 with regular, depressingly regular consistency.

The list archetype is thus:
Miranda
TLT
Harpoons
Sabine
Bomblet
LRS

Nym
VI
TLT
EM
Harpoons
Proton Bombs
(Bomb of your choice)
LRS
Title
Genius
Trajectory Simulator

I generally outfit mine with two sets of Proton Bombs and keep a 2 pts bid

Had I know I was flying the easy list, I might have reconsidered. Any idea on how to beat that? Aside from going out and finding three Alpha-class gunboats, as those are sold out in the city.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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Was just looking at the same thing and it has taken over vassal as well. It is stunning that at the same time as that rebel list became top tog some one went 9-0 in a System Open with Impaces.

I am thinking blockers so far (bumbmaster especially) combined with playing at range one, but still working things through. Don't actually think trip gunboats is even that great against it.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
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 ingtaer wrote:
Was just looking at the same thing and it has taken over vassal as well. It is stunning that at the same time as that rebel list became top tog some one went 9-0 in a System Open with Impaces.

I am thinking blockers so far (bumbmaster especially) combined with playing at range one, but still working things through. Don't actually think trip gunboats is even that great against it.


Bumpmaster with ion projector is a good call. Ion is the strongest counter. Anything that out pilot skills them really needs autothrusters so Poe & Thweek are also contenders. Thweek looks like a pretty good call in this meta. Combine him with the ion bumpmaster and you’ve got the beginning of a pretty solid counter.

Kylo has a chance if you can pilot skill 0 Nym but it’s a risky strategy.

 
   
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Yeah ion is the way isn't it, kills the bombs, slam, get in range one and ion of the board. Both only have 1 agility so it wont be hard to make ion stick. Shame its not that good against most other lists though.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

All the ion, all the time.

Contracted Scout (25)
Trick Shot (0)
Dengar (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Ion Projector (2)

Thweek (28)
Ion Torpedoes (5)
Fire-Control System (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Autothrusters (2)
StarViper Mk. II (-3)
Virago (1)

Binayre Pirate (12)
Ion Pulse Missiles (3)
Guidance Chips (0)

Binayre Pirate (12)
Ion Pulse Missiles (3)
Guidance Chips (0)

Total: 98

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 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Was thinking more cannon of turrets, however thinking about lists I couldn't think of a single one that wouldn't then fold to a stiff breeze except this;

Lok Revenant (26)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Guidance Chips (0)

Lok Revenant (26)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Guidance Chips (0)

Palob Godalhi (20)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)



Total: 99


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Just thought about ion gunboats, reckon that would be any good? Only faced the harps versions so far.

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On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

So I tried Chewie with Ion Projectors and two Golds w/Ion Turrets. Did not go up against Nymranda, but a lot of people seem not to care about ion until it is too late.

The IP is just not reliable enough.

Dash with Countermeasures and Poe with title ought to at least dampen the alpha strike.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Lincolnton, N.C.

Need to find a way to pair ion with stress to cripple them.

My beloved 40K armies:
Children of Stirba
Order of Saint Pan Thera


DA:80S++G+M++B++IPw40K(3)00/re-D+++A++/eWD233R---T(M)DM+ 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

You could use Chopper, with ion projector, and ion turret. Zeb crew to make sure you can attack and a shuttle to hit twice.


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Where the hell is the bird of doom? Surely not banned again?

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 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Think he is on holiday again...

Played this list again a few times on vassal last night. Tried out my last idea and it was okay, 2-2, tried out my nats list against it and went 3-0. Played my brobots variant and went 0-2.

Not sure what to take from that as I am sure some oppos were just trying out the new hotness for the first time and I have played my nats list lots. General strategy seems to be to burn down Miranda as quickly as possible, she is much, much worse than Nym in the end game. Trouble with that is having enough health (or high enough PS) to be able to eat whatever Nym throws at you in the meantime.

Watched a few other games and the best performer I saw was a list of wookies and a new phantom. Didn't have the presence of mind to note the list down but I think it was Rau and three tactician defenders. I don't play traitors at all but how does the VCX-100 fare against lists like this?

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
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Speaking of Ion was wanting to try out this build next time I get to play, using your Thweek you posted earlier for third ship otherwise was thinking Fenn Rau.

Dace Bonearm — HWK-290 23
Attanni Mindlink 1
Ion Cannon Turret 5
Maul 3
Ship Total: 32

Palob Godalhi — HWK-290 20
Attanni Mindlink 1
Ion Cannon Turret 5
K4 Security Droid 3
Ship Total: 29

Thweek — StarViper 28
Ion Torpedoes 5
Fire-Control System 2
Glitterstim 2
Autothrusters 2
StarViper Mk. II -3
Virago 1
Ship Total: 37

Total: 98

Since Dace doesn't have a limit of once per turn, he can do 2 damage via his ion cannon use Maul to rid that stress and have Palob also do 2 damage with his turret, only thing I don't like about this is it locks HWKS into doing green moves only.
   
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Looks like fun, but yeah locking yourself into the mediocre greens on the HWK in a bomb and harpoon heavy meta is asking for trouble, especially when the bombers are all at higher PS than your ships.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

The Ghost seems like a good answer, unless you get that crit that makes all your hits into crits, or a blinded pilot for a turn.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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Time for Ion brobots to resurface ?


• IG88-B Aggressor
Push the Limit Advanced Sensors Ion Cannon Ion Bombs Rigged Cargo Chute IG-2000 Autothrusters

• IG88-C Aggressor
Push the Limit Advanced Sensors Ion Cannon Ion Bombs Rigged Cargo Chute IG-2000 Autothrusters

Or is high PS the key ?

"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED." 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Could work, but they need a lot of practice to work. I dunno. High PS definitely helps, but once you ion them, not so much.


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Could work, but they need a lot of practice to work. I dunno. High PS definitely helps, but once you ion them, not so much.

Someone mentioned Wes Janson?

Wes Janson (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R2-D2 (4)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Bomb Loadout (0)
"Chopper" (Astromech) (1)
Guidance Chips (0)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)

Total: 98

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 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in ca
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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Feth. I thought you Americans didn't take vacation.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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One important thing to note: the Genius + trajectory simulator combo has been ruled (based on really stupid rules reasoning) not to work by the TO for the regional hosted at FFG's HQ, and the community seems to be agreeing that even though it's technically unofficial (and, again, really stupid in its justification) it's a clear statement of FFG's position on it once they get an FAQ approved by Disney. So that's a pretty major nerf to the list, and it will be interesting to see if it's such a dominant presence in the meta at the upcoming events.

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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

There is quite a furore over than reasoning in my local meta. Our TO has gone on the record as not in agreement with that ruling and our regional will allow the Genius+TS combo. Because anyway by now it's too late for an official FAQ to come in and be applicable.

Right? They always publish 2 weeks ahead, don't they?

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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Blanked because I can't read.

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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!

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Cadre Coronal Afterglow w1;d0;l0 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

So a lot of people brought lists to short-circuit responses to Nymranda. There were some hotshot copilots aimed at crippling Poe's ability. There were two Nyrmanda lists at the Regional this past weekend, and they scored reasonably well. 4-2, which considering the number of byes that showed up, wasn't good enough to crack top 8, barely good enough to crack top 16.

I should have coasted away from more danger, I was a little too aggressive in my first matches. 3-3

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Lincolnton, N.C.

I beat the combo in a practice match with a friend before the Krayt Cup. Flew a Fearlessness Boba and VI Asajj right up to em' and said hello. Neither like tractor beams, rocks or a range 1 cluster missile to the face.

....then didn't face a single Nymranda list the whole day. >.>;...oh well.

My beloved 40K armies:
Children of Stirba
Order of Saint Pan Thera


DA:80S++G+M++B++IPw40K(3)00/re-D+++A++/eWD233R---T(M)DM+ 
   
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Last SC here there was only one player with Nymranda, a majority of people were flying intensity Poe and Dash.

What did you end up flying Mathieu? I am thinking it might be fun to break out the party bus again.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

I flew Dash with Rey and Lone Wolf, and Poe with VI, R2-D2 and Adv. Optics. It's a good list. My losses were all imputable to bad manoeuvres on my part.

This list can probably beat Nymranda, I just needed to let them come to me. By going forward, I gave him an in, essentially.

The list that won was an FAA Poe, Norra-to-the-nines and Fenn with Chopper to hopefully last longer. Doesn't work if you give me a clear shot though.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
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I keep hearing about FAA, what is it ?
Edit : Nevermind, flight assist astromech.

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Virtus in extremis 
   
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Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

How can we get Dakka to recognize more of our acronyms automatically?

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Go here;
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205002.page

Add them and hope Yak agrees, if you have a look I added a few a while back that have not been actioned.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. 
   
 
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