Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I'm requesting help on Fabius Bile fluffy list with Red Corsairs if someone have some time to look at it.

This is my very first 40k list so i don't know if it is any good on the table. I wanted to build a fluffy Fabius Bile list (I got trapped in 40k universe because of him) and after several tries I finally come up with this one. The story is that Fabius Bile is doing some enhancement tests with Red Corsairs and Huron Balckheart want to see it in person. I choose Huron for his auto-pass moral within 6” and to boost the Exalted Champion with Diabolic Strength. Also he grants 1 CP if he is your Warlord.

1xBattalion Detachment (3CP):

HQ
Huron Blackheart (125p)
Fabius Bile (109p)
Exalted Champion with PowerSword (MurderSword) and Bolt pistol (74p)

Troops
10 ChaosSpacemarines (142p)
- 9 boltpistol and chainsword
- aspiring champion with lightning claws
10 ChaosSpacemarines (142p)
- 9 boltpistol and chainsword
- aspiring champion with powerfist and boltpistol
10 ChaosSpacemarines (135p)
- 9 boltpistol and chainsword
- aspiring champion with poweraxe and boltpistol

Elite
Hellbrute with Twin Lascannons and Misile launcher (147p)

Fast
Helldrake with Baleflamer (185p)

Heavy
Predator full of Lascannons (190p)
Vindicator stock (125p)

1xOutrider Detachment (1CP):

HQ
ChaosLord with Jumpack and 2 Plasmapistols (107p)

Fast
5 raptors (122p)
- 2 boltpistol and chainsword
- 2 plasmaguns
- Aspiring Champion with Powersword and Plasmapistol
5 raptors (122p)
- 2 boltpistol and chainsword
- 2 plasmaguns
- Aspiring Champion with Powersword and Plasmapistol
5 raptors (125p)
- 2 boltpistol and chainsword
- 2 plasmaguns
- Aspiring Champion with 2 Plasmapistols

Total points = 1850p
Total CP = 3(battleforged)+3(Battalion)+1(Outraider)+1(Huron BlackHeart) = 8 CP
Legion Trait: Dark Raiders (advance and charge in the same turn)
Warlord: Huron Blackheart
Warlord Trait: Eternal Vendetta (warlord re-roll to wound in the fight phase against adeptus astartes)

But then I read that the Red Corsairs are organized into a large pirate fleet, able to deploy small, elite warbands of Chaos Space Marines supported by larger groups of human reavers who are essentially spaceborne Chaos Cultists. And also that Huron has always a maximum of 4 Huntmasters with his own hit-and-run biker units known as the Hounds of Huron.

I truly like the raptors with a jumpack lord (supercharged plasma party in your face) and the 3 enhanced/exalted CSM units (I bought a Chosen kit on eBay for the 3 CSM aspiring champions). So its hard for me now to visualize a lot of cultists and some CSM with the exalted champion and some bikes with a chaos lord on a bike.

Can I run this list as it is now from both, performance on the table and fluff approved point of view? Also, how can I tweak this list to 2000 points if 2000 is the most common Point limit?

Any help is appreciated; Kindest regards.

The biggest thing I can see all things considered is you need some rhinos for your CSM to ride around in, otherwise they will waddle around the table until they get shot away, also keep in mind that the transport capacity is 10 so the characters won't fit unless you reduce the squad size to 9 man

Thanks for your time and wise words BloodPigeons89B, I will try to tweak the list to 2000 points with 3 rhinos and 3x9 CSM units.

I have a question, If I advance Fabius Bile, can he still enhance a CSM unit after doing so, or he can only enhance at the end of a movement phase not an advance move.

Cheers.

He can still enhance if he advances when he moves so long as at the end of the phase he is within distance to enhance

Thanks for the clarification BloodPigeons89B. I have made a new try but I don't know how to finish. It has 1665p at the moment:

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines)

HQ

Exalted Champion with Bolt pistol and Power sword (The Murder Sword)
Fabius Bile
Huron Blackheart

Troops

Chaos Cultists
- Cultist Champion with Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol
- 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun

Chaos Space Marines
- Aspiring Champion with 2 Lightning Claw
- 7x Marine Bolt pistol, Chainsword
- Marine with Famer

Chaos Space Marines
- Aspiring Champion with Bolt pistol and Power axe
- 7x Marine Bolt pistol, Chainsword
- Marine with Famer

3x Chaos Rhino: One Rhino with Huron and 9x CSM, one Rhino with Fabius and 9x CSM and the last Rhino with the Exalted and 9x Berzerkers.

Heavy Support

Chaos Predator with Predator Autocanon and Two lascannons

Elites

Khorne Berzerkers
- Berzerker Champion with Lightning Claw and Power fist
- 8x Chainsword and Chainaxe

Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines)

HQ

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack and 2x Lightning Claw

Fast Attack

3x Raptors
- Raptor Champion with 2x Plasma pistol
- 2x Raptor Bolt pistol, Chainsword
- 2x Raptor with Plasma gun

I have a couple of questions:
- Can I use the 10x Cultists to sit on a backfield objective or to provide a little screen for the predator, or do I need a 20x cultist unit or more to fulfill this role?
- I have seen 2000p it's the most common point limit. Can you help me finish this list to 2000?

Sorry to bother you but I truly need help to start my first 40k army.

Cheers.

Not a bother at all. The cultists are ok at a 10 man, if you add more ranged fire power (which I recommend) you will want to increase the number of cultists to create a nice buffer zone. Then you want to find a way to help them from running to morale. Huron or a dark apostle are the two ways to do so with renegades. If Huron is back keeping them fearless he's also letting the predator and anything else back there get some rerolls. My recommendations to fill out the list without trying to throw you in the deep end of the game would be to add some predators or havocs to take out armoured targets so your marines can push up and butcher infantry

Ok, so I can add another predator and have a 40 men Cultist unit with 2 Heavy Stubbers with Huron providing fearless and rerolls. I take Prescience for Huron to further boost shooting?

What about keeping Huron on the front and adding a Forge World Chaos Xiphon Interceptor (the flyer with 2xTwin lascannon and Soulstalker missiles)?

Again, thanks for your time and wisdom.

Dealers choice, they are both good plans

Ok, I will make the 2 versions of the list so I have more gameplay variety.

I feel motivated now to build my project. I hope some day I will know enough about the game to be able to help people with lists and rules questions like you did with me.

Cheers.