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Browsing stuff around read something about using strike wing to bring in vendettas as LOW choice. Is that legal? I have pair of those for 40k but interest in 40k waning so bolstering 30k forces with fresh coat of paint sounds appealing idea(next to decide sons of horus, blood angels or one for both).

And similarly were fliers during HH generally painted in legion livery?

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AFAIK vendettas aren't a legal choice for legions.

I'm not even sure they are available to the human factions.

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Valkyries/Vendettas aren't around at all in the 30k rules; if you want to try proxying them I'd suggest the Primaris-Lightning. There aren't any vehicles with three twin lascannons, but one twin lascannon and a payload of anti-tank missiles seems to me to come closer than the Avenger's gatling gun and lascannons or the Thunderbolt's lascannon and autocannons.

As for the colour scheme question it depends on the vehicle; the Legion-specific planes do tend to be permanently attached to the Legion and painted in Legion schemes, but the ones that'd be Guard/Navy in 40k are sometimes support squadrons from the Crusade Fleets and painted in different schemes.

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What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?

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Captyn_Bob wrote:
AFAIK vendettas aren't a legal choice for legions.

I'm not even sure they are available to the human factions.


Mechanicum can take them.



 
   
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tneva82 wrote:
What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?


These rules have been tidied up a lot in the new release of the rulebook. Do not believe vendetta are legal in an air wing.The

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Captyn_Bob wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?


These rules have been tidied up a lot in the new release of the rulebook. Do not believe vendetta are legal in an air wing.The


Oh bummer. Damn new rulebook for adding this silly limit. 30k should have more stuff than 40k so why marines don\t have these as support?

Well no biggie. We'll do this anyway. We have rules and there's no real reason to prevent it. Gives actual usage for models that would otherwise sit in boxes and as a bonus gives blood angels something to use against warhound since AT firepower is still lacking. Enough against tanks, enough against warhound? Less so.

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tneva82 wrote:
What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?


There's an explicit list of what things from Imperial Armour you're allowed to use under that rule.

(For the record, the IA vehicles available to 30k lists (as Legion, Mechanicum, or Imperial Army) are: Baneblade, Banehammer, Stormlord, Shadowsword, Stormsword, Macharius and all variants thereof, Crassus and all variants thereof, Marauder Bomber, Marauder Destroyer, Thunderbolt, Crusade Avenger, and Minotaur.)


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tneva82 wrote:
Captyn_Bob wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?


These rules have been tidied up a lot in the new release of the rulebook. Do not believe vendetta are legal in an air wing.The


Oh bummer. Damn new rulebook for adding this silly limit. 30k should have more stuff than 40k so why marines don\t have these as support?

Well no biggie. We'll do this anyway. We have rules and there's no real reason to prevent it. Gives actual usage for models that would otherwise sit in boxes and as a bonus gives blood angels something to use against warhound since AT firepower is still lacking. Enough against tanks, enough against warhound? Less so.


I'm going to reiterate my recommendation to field it as a Primaris-Lightning if you want officially-sanctioned rules for it.

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Well officially sanctioned rules are about least of our worries. After all I doubt very much FW police is going to come to our home and take away our models. And if they do this is among the smallest of rule changes we have done!

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True. I may try poking through Imperial Armour and see whether there are any other vehicles that deserve a 30k makeover.

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tneva82 wrote:
Captyn_Bob wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
What about the rule using rules from imperial armous in same way marines can get baneblades with marine crew? Why it wouldn#t work here?


These rules have been tidied up a lot in the new release of the rulebook. Do not believe vendetta are legal in an air wing.The


Oh bummer. Damn new rulebook for adding this silly limit. 30k should have more stuff than 40k so why marines don\t have these as support?


Have Valkyries/Vendettas been invented during the Heresy?
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Have Valkyries/Vendettas been invented during the Heresy?

Yes - Skitarii use them in Cybernetica, for example.
   
 
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