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Sooo i just saw all those new and shiny color shifter paints and im kind of a nut for cool technical paints

anyone try these?


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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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I haven't but those look like they have a TON of potential. I use the Golden Interference Green/Orange for my tyranid shells. I could see a lot of people doing a lot of things with colors like these. Anyone use their paints before? Are they any good? Haven't seen their line before.

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Wow! I will never be as rad as those paints.

I wonder what they'd look like on a grav tank...

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...looks at metallic orange space marines on shelf.

...soul fills with regret.

This post is several months too late. WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!!!

...but seriously, those look awesome. Will order once the weather rises above freezing.

   
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How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?

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 JohnnyHell wrote:
How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?


You sort of don't have to. Shade the crevices, let the reflection take care of the highlights.

   
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 John Prins wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?


You sort of don't have to. Shade the crevices, let the reflection take care of the highlights.


Also it depends on how transparent they are. If they are transparent you highlight and shade a base and then cover the whole top with the color shift. The shade/highlights will show through.


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 Lance845 wrote:
 John Prins wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?


You sort of don't have to. Shade the crevices, let the reflection take care of the highlights.


Also it depends on how transparent they are. If they are transparent you highlight and shade a base and then cover the whole top with the color shift. The shade/highlights will show through.

They don't seem to be too opaque, as the manufacturer's advice is to paint them over a coat of black, and use glossy paint underneath for an extra shiny result. Pre-highlighting could work quite well, though you would of course need to try it out to say for sure.

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 Lance845 wrote:
 John Prins wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?


You sort of don't have to. Shade the crevices, let the reflection take care of the highlights.


Also it depends on how transparent they are. If they are transparent you highlight and shade a base and then cover the whole top with the color shift. The shade/highlights will show through.


Have not used these specific flip flops, but do have experience with flip flops in general. The effect does not really happen at all with anything lighter than a black base coat. Have tried it over a medium gray and it looks like crap. You don't get the full flip flop/color change effect. The other issue is that the effect depends on the local light source. It works best with a single point light source.

You can't really highlight flip flops, as the second color IS the highlight and appears only where a highlight would appear based on the location of your in room light sources. Move or turn the figure in relation to the in room light sources and the second color highlights will move on the figure.

Some videos

Flip flop pearl over white base coat: start at 4:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQWYWlB20Qo

Automotive color change paint. Video shows how the color changes in relation to the light source (sky). start at 7:46. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrLT9QccQm8

Looks like Folk Art craft paint now has a color shift paint. Might be a cheap way to try out the effects. Video shows the difference between painting over white or black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4EV7l_5GdI

Some pigment for making your own paint: https://www.etsy.com/listing/495015136/mica-powder-chameleon-powder-artcolor?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_-other-craft_supplies_and_tools&utm_custom1=239a9ad2-29d4-43b2-88d1-d46ec22caad6&gclid=CjwKCAiAqbvTBRAPEiwANEkyCNKZ8p-NyqUJOJUso8Ddw-npWZCMvHx2RZOz910_MVpMJ5tyxnmTexoCupwQAvD_BwE

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timd wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
 John Prins wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
How on earth do you shade and highlight a flip paint though?


You sort of don't have to. Shade the crevices, let the reflection take care of the highlights.


Also it depends on how transparent they are. If they are transparent you highlight and shade a base and then cover the whole top with the color shift. The shade/highlights will show through.


Have not used these specific flip flops, but do have experience with flip flops in general. The effect does not really happen at all with anything lighter than a black base coat. Have tried it over a medium gray and it looks like crap. You don't get the full flip flop/color change effect. The other issue is that the effect depends on the local light source. It works best with a single point light source.

You can't really highlight flip flops, as the second color IS the highlight and appears only where a highlight would appear based on the location of your in room light sources. Move or turn the figure in relation to the in room light sources and the second color highlights will move on the figure.

Some videos

Flip flop pearl over white base coat: start at 4:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQWYWlB20Qo

Automotive color change paint. Video shows how the color changes in relation to the light source (sky). start at 7:46. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrLT9QccQm8

Looks like Folk Art craft paint now has a color shift paint. Might be a cheap way to try out the effects. Video shows the difference between painting over white or black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4EV7l_5GdI

Some pigment for making your own paint: https://www.etsy.com/listing/495015136/mica-powder-chameleon-powder-artcolor?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_-other-craft_supplies_and_tools&utm_custom1=239a9ad2-29d4-43b2-88d1-d46ec22caad6&gclid=CjwKCAiAqbvTBRAPEiwANEkyCNKZ8p-NyqUJOJUso8Ddw-npWZCMvHx2RZOz910_MVpMJ5tyxnmTexoCupwQAvD_BwE


While true that you need to use much darker colors to get the transition paints to show up properly, (I use a black base with dark brown... I believe Army Painters Oak Brown to add accent lines on my tyranid shell before coating with Goldens Green/Orange) the oak brown is dark enough to both be seen through it at the correct angle AND maintain the green oranges colors on the surface.

Basically you need to adjust your highlight colors. Don't highlight to a near white. Don't even highlight to those extremes. If your looking at a scale from white (1) to black (10) you basically need to stay in the 8-10 range with MAYBE a 7 for the very brightest parts but thats potentially pushing it.


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have had set 1 on on my desk for 4 days now, going to try the gold one on the new 40k custodes.

they sold me on not beeing limited to airbrush like moust pearlescent paint is.

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We didn't think there would've been much of a call for these as we did investigate producing them alongside our other metallics.

Might have to reopen that book.....

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 Supershandy wrote:
We didn't think there would've been much of a call for these as we did investigate producing them alongside our other metallics.

Might have to reopen that book.....


Interest is one thing, but its going to take some really great photos of minis painted with this type of paint to get anyone but us paint junkies to buy the stuff.

I placed an order with GSW a bit ago and they only had the 25 Euro paint sets, so I did not buy it. Now I see they sell them in individual bottles so now its cheaper to try it out.

Best use of these that I can think about would be for Tzeench related figures. Another good use could be Eldar. I used a blue to purple highlight flip flop pearl on my Eldar. Might be interesting as power weapon colors or or even used to represent normal blades made of exotic materials.

There are four tutorial videos here: http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/chameleon-acrylic-paints/677-chameleon-colorshift-cobalt-blue-paint.html

Looks like they are adding silver paint to the paint to make an edge highlight color.

T

PS Folk Art versions at Michael's, 10 colors: http://www.michaels.com/folkart-color-shift-gloss-finish-metallic-acrylic-paint/10504626.html?mkwid=sviefcCbP|pcrid|102013289952|pkw||pmt||pdv|c|prd|10504626&cm_mmc=zadv_PLASearch-_-google-_-All-Products-_-All-Products&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=All-Products&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=sviefcCbP|pcrid|102013289952|pkw||pmt||pdv|c|prd|10504626&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpJ_7uZ6A2QIVCnd-Ch0KEwFcEAQYAiABEgJ-LvD_BwE

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Planning on getting some of this for my DE aethersails. Good to see they're selling the bottles individually now - well, on pre-order at any rate.
   
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timd wrote:
 Supershandy wrote:
We didn't think there would've been much of a call for these as we did investigate producing them alongside our other metallics.

Might have to reopen that book.....


Interest is one thing, but it going to take some really great photos of minis painted with this type of paint to get anyone but us paint junkies to buy the stuff.

I placed an order with GSW a bit ago and they only had the 25 Euro paint sets, so I did not buy it. Now I see they sell them in individual bottles so now its cheaper to try it out.

Best use of these that I can think about would be for Tzeench related figures. Another good use could be Eldar. I used a blue to purple highlight flip flop pearl on my Eldar. Might be interesting as power weapon colors or or even used to represent normal blades made of exotic materials.

There are four tutorial videos here: http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/chameleon-acrylic-paints/677-chameleon-colorshift-cobalt-blue-paint.html

Looks like they are adding silver paint to the paint to make an edge highlight color.

T

PS Folk Art versions at Michael's, 10 colors: http://www.michaels.com/folkart-color-shift-gloss-finish-metallic-acrylic-paint/10504626.html?mkwid=sviefcCbP|pcrid|102013289952|pkw||pmt||pdv|c|prd|10504626&cm_mmc=zadv_PLASearch-_-google-_-All-Products-_-All-Products&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=All-Products&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=sviefcCbP|pcrid|102013289952|pkw||pmt||pdv|c|prd|10504626&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpJ_7uZ6A2QIVCnd-Ch0KEwFcEAQYAiABEgJ-LvD_BwE


That's very true, we are adding different colour metallics to our range as well as the usual Bronze, Gold, Copper and Silvers, Currently we have a really nice metallic blue and we plan to start adding some more soon in the ways of Reds, Oranges, Greens, Purples and many more as well as the ability to highlight with some of them without making any additions, problem is, metallics are quite hard to get a picture of to really advertise them well!

The added advantage with our range as well is that we don't just limit to one size, we have sizes ranging from 2ml Samples to 100ml Extra Large sizes depending on how much you need

If the interest is still there for this and our products, we may consider adding our own chameleon range


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Anyone had a chance to try these out?

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 ChargerIIC wrote:
Anyone had a chance to try these out?


barely, but first impression was not good. did a lot of testing with shading allso, so no point in showcasing my test.
using brush and trying a gold/red tone, even with 6 thin layers there was not a solid basecoat. i can see the colour change of the paint, but the black primer still shines true, so the paint is realy thin. (and the first layer i did the gold/red appeard as green......)
so that lead me to the conclusion that this is airbrush paint.
ordered a cheap airbrush as i dont want to taint the only 1 i have with metalics. it should arrive later this week and i will continue to test then, but brush job is prolly just for the highlights after you have shaded the model.


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 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 ChargerIIC wrote:
Anyone had a chance to try these out?


barely, but first impression was not good. did a lot of testing with shading allso, so no point in showcasing my test.
using brush and trying a gold/red tone, even with 6 thin layers there was not a solid basecoat. i can see the colour change of the paint, but the black primer still shines true, so the paint is realy thin. (and the first layer i did the gold/red appeard as green......)
so that lead me to the conclusion that this is airbrush paint.
ordered a cheap airbrush as i dont want to taint the only 1 i have with metalics. it should arrive later this week and i will continue to test then, but brush job is prolly just for the highlights after you have shaded the model.



Did you watch their videos for using their paints?


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So stepp one, paint tyranid in black. Step 2 drbrush the tyranid. You now an insect. :-)

   
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 Niiai wrote:
So stepp one, paint tyranid in black. Step 2 drbrush the tyranid. You now an insect. :-)


That might look good on the carapace!

Would make you wonder what on earth it ingested though, but it must have been fabulous!

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 Niiai wrote:
So stepp one, paint tyranid in black. Step 2 drbrush the tyranid. You now an insect. :-)


Picture quality isn't the best. Also it's very hard to get good photos with these paints.

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Bergen

Oh man that is AWSOME!. I can see the effect on the top and bottom.

I am curently on a very low budget, and I want to do my models justice so I am repainting my old tyranids into a leviathan scheme. I dare not paint that onto the darker purple parts of the caracpace, I think it would be to many colours.

Thet being said, I am gonne be repainting my dark eldar. They just had the one coat of paint on them, if that even. I think the kabalite warrior armour would lend itself very well to this effect. All of the multiple overlaying plates works wonder for this.


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 Supershandy wrote:
 Niiai wrote:
So stepp one, paint tyranid in black. Step 2 drbrush the tyranid. You now an insect. :-)


That might look good on the carapace!

Would make you wonder what on earth it ingested though, but it must have been fabulous!


Nids don't eat, not in that same sence, they are just mass produced by the norn queens for the most part. I really like that scheme.

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Just to clarify, that paint I am using is a 20 oz bottle of Goldens interference Green/Orange. But it looks to work exactly the same. Their Green/brown looks very similar in colors and they have a wider range of color shifts.


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Bergen

Is there a purple that shades to red or pink?

   
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I was interested in painting my plague drones carapace with this paint. Thought the green/purple would make it look like a pearlescent beetle shell. I stayed away from it because they only sold the bulk box like another poster mentioned. I think these would look great on eldar vehicles.
   
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Bergen

Oooooo, toxic nurge bettles carapaces are also good.

Powerswords might also like this?

HOw do you wash it? Can you wash it?

   
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This stuff would be ideal for Necron Scarab Swarms and Canoptek Wraiths/Spiders, as well as the AoS giant beetle.

   
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 Niiai wrote:
Oooooo, toxic nurge bettles carapaces are also good.

Powerswords might also like this?

HOw do you wash it? Can you wash it?


They have a video on their site showing brush work with a ink/wash and highlight.


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 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
I was interested in painting my plague drones carapace with this paint. Thought the green/purple would make it look like a pearlescent beetle shell. I stayed away from it because they only sold the bulk box like another poster mentioned. I think these would look great on eldar vehicles.

I think i saw an FB post the day that they're now selling them in singles...

just checked & yes they do! 4.15 Euros per pot: http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/chameleon-acrylic-paints/686-chameleon-colorshift-martian-green-paint.html

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Now they're singles, I'll be ordering a couple. I figure using a blue-purple and a purple-green, the latter painted on as if it were a highlight, should make some good looking Heresy-era Alpha Legion without faffing with airbushes.

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