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Looking for input on a two detachment Custodes and Guard list. The Guard infantry squads will be for camping backfield objectives and preventing drops while the custodes do all the heavy lifting. The guard also add a cheap 3 CP and 3 primaris psykers should add some survivability to the Custodes during the psychic phase.

Custodes Battalion Detachment +3CP

HQ:
Trajann 250pts
Jetbike Captain w/hurricane bolters and misericordia 164pts

Elites
3x Allarus custodes w/ axe and misericordia 264pts
Vexilla praetor w/ magnifica (-1 to hit) and castellan axe 124pts
Vexilla praetor w/ defensor (5++ for imperium units) and castellan axe 114pts

Troops
3x Custodes w/ spears 156
3x Custodes w/ spears 156
3x Custodes w/ spears 156

Fast Attack
Vertus Praetors with missiles and misericordia 327

Guard Battalion Detachment
Primaris Psyker 46
Primaris Psyker 46
Primaris Psyker 46

Troops
Infantry Squad with mortar team 45
Infantry Squad with mortar team 45
Infantry Squad with Lascannon 60

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"You are free, Leman Russ of Fenris, because your freedoms match the emperor's will. For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time I am told to conquer peaceful world's that wish only to be left alone. I am told to destroy whole civilizations and call it liberation. I am told to demand millions of men and women from these new worlds, to make them take up arms in the Emperor's hordes, and I am to call this a tithe, or recruitment, because we are all too scared of the truth. We refuse to call it slavery.' 'I am loyal, the same as you. I am told to bathe my legion in the blood of innocents and sinners alike, and I do it, because it is all that's left for me in this life. I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are morale, or right - or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe - but because all I feel are the Butcher's Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this "mutilation". Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps to our father's palace and take the slaving bastard's head" 
   
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Could swap a primaris psyker for an astropath with psychic maelstrom and a laspistol. This saves you 30pts and that power is pretty decent as it can snipers characters and target models that aren't the closest. Astropaths also have no penalty to cast it.

And is the praetor with the vexilla defensor really worth it? Can't see what he adds to the list tbh - a 5++ on guard squads is definitely not worth it.

Have you thought about whos having your relic and warlord trait? The custodes relics are fun, but you also have the guard command point options - grand strategist and kurovs Aquila will greatly boost the amount of CP available. If you do go this route then you can still use the 'open the vaults' stratagem to get the jetbike relic for your biker captain.

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With forgeworld having released their beta rules I've tweaked the list some. Each shield captain will escort a drop team, with the squad of 8 custodes being placed in the teleporter with a stratagem. Most likely will be used as two separate strike teams. The two primaris psykers will help the other two squads of 3 custodes foot slog to where they're needed most or protect the Calidus if the opponent plays aggressively. The guard will help bubble wrap the tank and hold backfield objectives. HQ will be the company commander with Grand Strategist and Kurov's aquila.

Custodes Battalion
HQ
Allarus Shield Captain with Castellan Axe 144
Allarus Shield Captain with Castellan Axe 144

Elites
Allarus Custodes with Castellan Axe 336

Troops
Custodes x8 4 w/ shields and swords, 4 with spears 444
Custodes x3 w/ spears 156
Custodes x3 w/ spears 156

Fast Attack
Caladius Grav-Tank

Cadian Guard Battalion

HQ
Primaris Psyker 46
Primaris Psyker 46
Company Commander 30 w/ chainsword and laspistol. Warlord with Grand Strategist and Kurov's aquila

Troops
Infantry Squad w/ mortar team 45pts
Infantry Squad w/ mortar team 45pts
Infantry Squad w/ mortar team 45pts

Heavy support
Heavy Weapons Team w/ 2 mortars and lascannon 48pts

2000pts

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"You are free, Leman Russ of Fenris, because your freedoms match the emperor's will. For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time I am told to conquer peaceful world's that wish only to be left alone. I am told to destroy whole civilizations and call it liberation. I am told to demand millions of men and women from these new worlds, to make them take up arms in the Emperor's hordes, and I am to call this a tithe, or recruitment, because we are all too scared of the truth. We refuse to call it slavery.' 'I am loyal, the same as you. I am told to bathe my legion in the blood of innocents and sinners alike, and I do it, because it is all that's left for me in this life. I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are morale, or right - or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe - but because all I feel are the Butcher's Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this "mutilation". Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps to our father's palace and take the slaving bastard's head" 
   
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bump for new army list

"You are free, Leman Russ of Fenris, because your freedoms match the emperor's will. For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time I am told to conquer peaceful world's that wish only to be left alone. I am told to destroy whole civilizations and call it liberation. I am told to demand millions of men and women from these new worlds, to make them take up arms in the Emperor's hordes, and I am to call this a tithe, or recruitment, because we are all too scared of the truth. We refuse to call it slavery.' 'I am loyal, the same as you. I am told to bathe my legion in the blood of innocents and sinners alike, and I do it, because it is all that's left for me in this life. I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are morale, or right - or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe - but because all I feel are the Butcher's Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this "mutilation". Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps to our father's palace and take the slaving bastard's head" 
   
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I'm curious to hear how this list has been working for you! I'm in the midst of building a similar list with a large Custodian Guard squad (to deep strike) and bikes.

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I'm running my first game with this list today against a chaos demons/thousand sons/alpha legion list. I'm a little concerned not using a psyker with the drop teams but outside pairing with space marines for librarians i'll have to hope they're within 12" for the stratagem. The only other concern I have is not giving the caladius the -1 to hit banner since it will draw a considerable amount of fire until the drop teams are on the board. I plan on trying to keep it more than 48" away and sacrificing the 2+ BS when I have to

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"You are free, Leman Russ of Fenris, because your freedoms match the emperor's will. For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time I am told to conquer peaceful world's that wish only to be left alone. I am told to destroy whole civilizations and call it liberation. I am told to demand millions of men and women from these new worlds, to make them take up arms in the Emperor's hordes, and I am to call this a tithe, or recruitment, because we are all too scared of the truth. We refuse to call it slavery.' 'I am loyal, the same as you. I am told to bathe my legion in the blood of innocents and sinners alike, and I do it, because it is all that's left for me in this life. I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are morale, or right - or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe - but because all I feel are the Butcher's Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this "mutilation". Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps to our father's palace and take the slaving bastard's head" 
   
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 Wolf 11x wrote:
I'm curious to hear how this list has been working for you! I'm in the midst of building a similar list with a large Custodian Guard squad (to deep strike) and bikes.


So the caladius served its purpose very well as a flying death machine. After an alpha strike of 30 bloodletters landed a massive 3d6 charge of 16 and were able to wrap through the screen squad of guardsmen and place models against the tank, being able to just move it 16" away behind a squad of 3 custodes spearmen and resume firing on 3+ was vital. I do believe the best custodes list will revolve around large bike units, but the tank having a 60" cannon and 16" of movement proved to be a somewhat deciding factor of my game as it gives the custodes some serious ranged punch. The large blob of custodes is an amazing deepstrike for 1CP, even with somewhat poor armor save rolls, being able to wound allocate in such a large squad almost guarantees you do not lose one until you get where they need to be. I will probably be editing the guardsmen some... it was not a pretty game for them

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"You are free, Leman Russ of Fenris, because your freedoms match the emperor's will. For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time I am told to conquer peaceful world's that wish only to be left alone. I am told to destroy whole civilizations and call it liberation. I am told to demand millions of men and women from these new worlds, to make them take up arms in the Emperor's hordes, and I am to call this a tithe, or recruitment, because we are all too scared of the truth. We refuse to call it slavery.' 'I am loyal, the same as you. I am told to bathe my legion in the blood of innocents and sinners alike, and I do it, because it is all that's left for me in this life. I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are morale, or right - or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe - but because all I feel are the Butcher's Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this "mutilation". Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps to our father's palace and take the slaving bastard's head" 
   
 
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