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I am brand new to wargaming and only have a small amount of experience painting D&D miniatures. However I have ordered the Craftworld start collecting set and want to have a Lugganath army.

So I had a look on the Citadel paint app and under Orange it suggests that I base with Jokaero Orange then drybrush with Kindleflame then shade with Fuegan Orange. It seems a bit strange to me to shade AFTER the drybrush. Does this seem right to you guys?

The "Layer" selection has the shade first but as I'm a beginner I figure drybrushing would be easier for me.

Also what would be the best undercoat colour for Lugganath? I'm thinking of doing them with a white helmet instead of the traditional black,

I'd be grateful for any help to get started.
   
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine





Norwich

I agree, with this, sometimes their painting guides make no sense, when I was painting my Tau army it asked me to put a wash on after i’d put all the colours on the armour plates, but to only wash into the recesses and not get any on the painted parts.

Seemed rather backwards to me.

In this respect I would do it how you think it should go if it makes sense to you rather than what the painting guide says, just because it worked for them doesn’t mean it will work for everyone

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Supranaut wrote:
I am brand new to wargaming and only have a small amount of experience painting D&D miniatures. However I have ordered the Craftworld start collecting set and want to have a Lugganath army.

So I had a look on the Citadel paint app and under Orange it suggests that I base with Jokaero Orange then drybrush with Kindleflame then shade with Fuegan Orange. It seems a bit strange to me to shade AFTER the drybrush. Does this seem right to you guys?

The "Layer" selection has the shade first but as I'm a beginner I figure drybrushing would be easier for me.

Also what would be the best undercoat colour for Lugganath? I'm thinking of doing them with a white helmet instead of the traditional black,

I'd be grateful for any help to get started.


Could be to tie the effect of drybrush to base colour. Blur the lines a bit. Not sure. Haven't seen the guide and don't use drybrush much these days.

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Glad I'm not the only one confused haha. I had another look at the app and there's a light orange that could be more suitable. And has the shade before the drybrush. I did have a question about that one though.

It says to base with Corax white. Does that mean I should get the Corax white spray then add some Corax white with a brush or do I just use the spray?
   
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Apply the primer correctly and it should be fine.

People online saying use this artists primer or that auto primer worked fine.

Gw primer is so good. Ive used about 12 of the new12 pound cans the past year and a half and theyre always good.

I think maybe people dont wash theyre sprues or leave them lying around for a day/are lazy.

Regards lazy, 2 or 3 bases thin your paints straight on the primer should be fine thin your paints.
Bases dry as youre finishing the last spots, so always makes sense to call 3 apllications the nasing stage all done in one go.

Dry brush under layer is the introduction to thin your paints once you get a good effect. My broodlord claws are this method.


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Applying a shade after a drybrush is fairly common. It's often done to tone your drybrush down a bit, and to blend it all together.

I would honestly just try it out. Paint a spare model using the method and see if you like how it looks.

 
   
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Try the paint routine suggested by the pros on a test model and modify your own routine from there. Honestly it's in your best interested to follow directions written by experienced painters.

White undercoat is what you want for orange basecolors.

Drybrushing is great for beginners and veterans alike because it works.
   
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Supranaut wrote:
I am brand new to wargaming and only have a small amount of experience painting D&D miniatures. However I have ordered the Craftworld start collecting set and want to have a Lugganath army.

So I had a look on the Citadel paint app and under Orange it suggests that I base with Jokaero Orange then drybrush with Kindleflame then shade with Fuegan Orange. It seems a bit strange to me to shade AFTER the drybrush. Does this seem right to you guys?

The "Layer" selection has the shade first but as I'm a beginner I figure drybrushing would be easier for me.

Also what would be the best undercoat colour for Lugganath? I'm thinking of doing them with a white helmet instead of the traditional black,

I'd be grateful for any help to get started.


The shade afterwards is meant to tie the orange and very light kindleflame together. It sounds odd on paper but it can yield good results. Drybrushing has a rough look and when you glaze it over with a shade it brings things together.

Same technique is used here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cA_VKgWzSQ

 
   
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Method isn’t the same as technique.

I’d definitely be looking up painting tutorials on YouTube. I’ve found GW’s own ones very useful for seeing how to apply a layer or shade. Previously, I’d just slather the shade on, but now I see the wisdom in more targeted application.

Don’t have to stick with Duncan and Peachy of course, but I find their videos particularly reliable and accessible.

This’un might serve. It’s not Lugganath of course, but the palette is broadly similar, if perhaps a little darker?


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Thanks so much for all the help and advice guys.

I ended up grabbing a D&D Rogue mini that I didn't care about, sprayed it with Corax White then based it in Troll Slayer Orange (I liked that it was brighter than Jakaero), then drybrushed with kindle flame. After that I shaded with Feugan Orange and I love the result! It really takes out the harshness of the drybrushing and it's the exact shade of orange I wanted .

Only issue was that the Troll Slayer Orange is very thin being a layer paint. Should I get Jakaero orange as well for the first coat at least?
   
 
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