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Made in ca
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So as the title says, really want to get into the game, watched a few batreps and it looks really solid and exactly what I am looking for (old style fantasy).

I was able to get a good deal off someone I know for 75$ Canadian for this entire lot; https://imgur.com/a/7BUUo

I have a couple questions.

1) Is all the hobbit/lotr stuff the same system?
2) Do I have enough to play a small 2p game?
3) What exactly do I have? I know I have a fellowship, some elves, etc.. but I literally have no idea.
4) What are most point limit games?
5) Are the books still valid, should I buy the new one or just wait.
6) Do I need anything else not pictured?

Any other information, please throw it at me!

I am in a good position to start a little group here as I have about 8-10 people in our 40k circle really looking at this and infinity (and of course I am pushing this because I am a huge old style fantasy fan).

Thanks guys

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




1. Yup, all the same system
2. It looks like you have the Fellowship x2, a Small wood elf band and Dwarfs. Id go with a squad of dwarfs vs elfs with 1 hero in each to kinda get a feel for it.
3. Best thing is to look them up on GWs site. That gives you and idea of the unit name. I don't know whats in the books you got. Maybe there are stats in those? And point cost? Not to sure.
4. Ive heard "Standard" games are around 500. But I don't do LOTR Tourneys so someone else may be better to answer that.
5. Theres "Blue" books on their site for the factions. "Mordor, Free Peoples, Moria and angmar" etc. That's where a lot of your points/stats are. Theres also the 2 hobbit books. The hobbit books and blue books are valid yes. They plan to release a main rulebook on playing called "Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game" Since they are rebranding it this summer.
6. Tape, Table, Dice (d6). Either One hobbit rulebook, or the Blue One Ring rulebook. Lots of these are scattered online in places.

Looks like youd just need "The Freepeoples" blue book

Make one guy of the wood elfs a hero "Wood Elf Captian"
Other 12 wood elf warriors

Same with dwarfs from what I can tell.

Doing that will give you around 150 ish points a side. Give or take based on the weapons the models have
   
Made in gb
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Lincoln, UK

Right, so:

The rulebooks are OK. The Return of the King one supersedes the others, as it has rules for sieges and more army stats (from all the films). Although even that is 13 years old now, the core roles are still pretty close to what's in the latest (Hobbit) rules. You are, however, missing some stats - neither the Dwarves nor the Wood Elves you have are statted in those rulebooks (they came later). Stroodles is correct - you want the current Free Peoples army book which is still available (there are 5 in total).

You have models from 5 forces there. The Fellowship is a force in itself, and you also have some Riders of Rohan, Moria Goblins, Wood Elves and Dwarves. There are also some Warhammer models on Picture 3 that don't match the LotR figure aesthetic but hey, it's your game now!

Your dwarf force is the most complete. You have basic warriors, several versions of Gimli, Balin, a Captain and some (rare-ish) metal Iron Guard. There's a pretty decent force there, which you could certainly ally with Gandalf for more oomph.

A full game is 500-700 points generally, although you can play higher or lower (lower point games work well). You probably don't have enough of anything else to fight the dwarves in a full-sized game, although Fellowship vs Dwarves is a possibility. There are some tough heroes in the Fellowship, but numbers count in this game.

The Mines of Moria set had the Fellowship vs 24 Moria Goblins and a Cave Troll, so the forces don't have to be vast, and you can always play a game where one side recycles dead models. You do have stats for the Fellowship and a Moria force already.

Heck, there''s nothing to stop you proxying stats from the rulebook and playing, I dunno, Gondor vs High Elves as dwarves vs wood elves. The game works better when it's not just "kill the other team" anyway, and you have a load of scenarios in your books to tinker with.

You certainly have enough to play a Battle Companies campaign very nicely - the rules have just been released, and they'll keep you busy for ages. There's tons to do: scenarios to fight, heroes to improve and kit to buy. You can start Battle Companies with a single £15 box of 12 minis for your force (they're based around 50 points or so to start with), although you may want the army book too for some of the more powerful model upgrades. Great fun, and highly recommended.

I would recommend Battle Companies and the Free Peoples army book. You have starting BC armies for Dwarfs and possibly Moria Goblins. You can also start a Lothlorien company with some Galadhrim Warriors to complement your wood elves. Your friends can join in with the purchase of a starting box of plastics of their choice (£15) and the appropriate army book (£17) for the most up to date stats. Part of the fun of BC is converting models as they improve or gain gear, so no need to rush out and buy a ton of elite models just yet.

As Stroodles said, you can convert captains and banner bearers out of existing models (or just paint one more "captain-like"). One other thing I'd look at buying is a sprue of plastic historical minis from eBay. Gripping Beast Viking Hirdmen or Anglo-Saxon Thegns will give you extra weapon and shield options; you will find things like horns, cloaks and banners on the (smaller) command sprues. The fantasy Frostgrave Soldiers box has rope, packs, lanterns, crossbow arms etc. You'll get them for a few dollars each.

it's a great game - have fun!




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Currently in-print books:

The Hobbit Strategy Battle Game: core rules plus stats, scenarios and a campaign for the first Hobbit film. Also limited stats (no special abilities or points) for the entire LotR range. There will be a new Middle-Earth game out this summer, so hold off on buying it. the rules you have are fine for now. IIRC, the character stats are a free download on the Black library site.

There and Back Again: stats, scenarios and a campaign for the second and third Hobbit films.

The five LotR army books currently available are widely regarded as among the best-balanced army books GW has put out. They expand on the film stats that you have in the Return of the King rulebook, and provide a wider range of options for all armies. There are also generic scenarios in the books.

Kingdoms of Men (Gondor, Rohan, Arnor and Gondor's Fiefdoms such as Lossarnach and Dol Amroth)
Free Peoples (dwarves, elves, wanderers in the wild and the Fellowship)
Mordor
Moria and Angmar
Fallen Realms (Isengard, Easterlings, Harad - including Mumaks!)

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