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How would this list perorm at a tournament? I want to try different things, but still be Khorne(mostly).


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [65 PL, 1118pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic)

Legion: Renegade Chapters - Skulltakers

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

+ HQ +

Sorcerer with Jump Pack [7 PL, 135pts]: Combi-plasma, Death Hex, Force sword, No Chaos Mark, Warptime

Zhufor the Impaler [8 PL, 130pts]: 6. Exalted Champion, Warlord

+ Elites +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 157pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 157pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 157pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 7x Chainsword and Chainaxe: 7x Chainaxe

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Khorne
. Cultist Champion: Shotgun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Khorne
. Cultist Champion: Shotgun

Chaos Space Marines [5 PL, 86pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Plasma pistol, Power sword
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [24 PL, 475pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Knight Styrix [24 PL, 475pts]: Graviton crusher, Hellburner chieorovile, Reaper chainsword

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Daemons) [21 PL, 406pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Chaos Undivided

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Be'lakor [14 PL, 280pts]: Diabolic Strength, Warptime

Bloodmaster [3 PL, 56pts]

Karanak [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [110 PL, 1999pts] ++

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Why take rhinos? Make your cultists/berserkers alpha legion and you just saved yourself 216 points. Don’t take Chaos space Marines. Cultists shoot more and are cheaper. With their stratagems they can easily do 3x has many shots as a unit of CSM. Remember that you can move and advance and still shoot full BS with cultists and still be in range. Just give all your cultists autoguns. Cultists are bad melee unit. Besides you already have berserkers. If you want a better cc unit, take a 30man unit of bloodletters. They get 60 attacks at s6, -3ap, 1dmg each. That is much better and more scary.

Be’lakor cannot use warp time and is way over coated for what you get. You can make your supreme command a Tsons detachment and take Arhiman, a Tsons prince, and a Tsons sorcerer. You spend 30 more points but you triple your psychic strength.

On the supreme command, why are you taking a skull taker and blood master? You don’t have any blood letters to buff and they do not buff berserkers because berserkers are not daemons.

You are also going to want to take a Chaos lord with your cultists to reroll ones.

Knights are really really bad. Too many points and not enough shooting. For the same cost of a knight you can take 6 obliterators and get more shooting. Make them alpha legion and they are -1 to hit and they deep strike where you want so they don’t get alpha strikes off the table.

Also, mark all your stuff slaneesh to take advantage of the double shoot strat. You can make you berserkers khorn though.

You will have more success with these changes.

Thanks!
Why can't Be'Lakor take warptime? It's an option on Battlescribe. Also, on paper he seems like a monster. Negative 5 on saves is no joke.

I want to remain Legion Skulltakers so I get Lord Zhufor buffs on the zerkers.

I took the Herald and Karanak in the SC detachment because doggo can help with deny the witch and the herald because he's super cheap.

The tournament I want to play with this is just a small local thing. Nothing GT or anything.

 chimeara wrote:
Thanks!
Why can't Be'Lakor take warptime? It's an option on Battlescribe. Also, on paper he seems like a monster. Negative 5 on saves is no joke.

I want to remain Legion Skulltakers so I get Lord Zhufor buffs on the zerkers.

I took the Herald and Karanak in the SC detachment because doggo can help with deny the witch and the herald because he's super cheap.

The tournament I want to play with this is just a small local thing. Nothing GT or anything.

Don’t ever trust battle scribe. It is often times several codices behind. In the Daemon codex, they updated the powers he can take from the Heraticus table and warp time is not one of them. -5 is nice, but on a 280 point platform, it just isn’t worth it. The magic ap is -2. Princes are 100 points cheaper and have 7 attacks at s7, -2, 2 dmg. Much much better and Tsons princes can cast 2 spells and deny 1.

The reason you take arhiman is because he can cast 3 spells and deny 3 spells and gets a +1 to both cast and deny. He is a monster. He can take chose from so many useful spells. Additionaly you take him in a Tsons detachment because you then get +6” to his cast range, which is insane. 9” for warptime? Yes please 24” for Death hex? Yes please. Did I meant Jon he can move 12” on a disc. His effect cast ranges are crazy stupid. All for 166 points.

If you want to buff your breakers just take Kharn. He is just better.

I see. So about the knight. I want to try out the Styrix in that list. It seems decent enough.

 chimeara wrote:
I see. So about the knight. I want to try out the Styrix in that list. It seems decent enough.

I would give it a shot. Knights are fun. I generally find myself very disappointed with their performance though and wish I would have just brought something else.

How many sorcerers should I be using?. I'm thinking 1 or 2 should suffice, but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to psykers.