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The plan is to have the prince and drone take a flank with termies dropping in near the prince or even the lord for rerolls and miasma casts, while the PMs and pox advance with the lord and blightspawn and probably typhus , while hellbrute follows behind popping shots, maybe a turn 1 stratagem with re rolls for him.

I found it super hard to make this list because I lack numbers in both pox and PM. I was thinking of dropping the lord the prince has re rolls and also arch contaminatior wouldn’t be bad on him with the drones and termies in combat.

Any tips of how to tweak this ? I know the termies are expensive but are they worth it without plasma ? Also, are deathshroud viable instead ? I own all of this right now except the termies so want to see which I should buy.

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [82 PL, 1499pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Gametype: Matched

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 80pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Balesword, Bolt pistol, Warlord

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, Miasma of Pestilence, The Suppurating Plate, Wings

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Putrescent Vitality

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [10 PL, 153pts]
. Plague Champion: Plaguesword, Plasma gun
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 153pts]
. Plague Champion: Plaguesword, Plasma gun
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 96pts]: 16x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Blightlord Terminators [14 PL, 280pts]
. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-plasma
. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of Corruption

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Helbrute [7 PL, 147pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

+ Fast Attack +

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

++ Total: [82 PL, 1499pts] ++

Thanks for any tips. Not competitive just for friendly local games, not tournaments

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Personal experience... Blightlords don't do enough damage for their points unless you have a Lord/Prince to help them reroll 1's. Even then, you may not be too impressed by them.

Is your arch contaminator lord wandering with the PM squads? If so, I'd recommend some PBC's to roll up with em or more drones; you need to maximize the impact of the contaminator, its a huge force multiplier.

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I just had a thought of removing the lord and adding a noxious blight and 2 more pox to speed them up the board
   
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LegioX217 wrote:
I just had a thought of removing the lord and adding a noxious blight and 2 more pox to speed them up the board


If you wanna use the Blightlauncher PM's, you'll get a lot of mileage outta the contaminator. The Noxious Blight is good, but it depends if you face a lot of gunlines whether you need that movement. Honestly, in my few games, all my opponents were as melee-oriented as me, so I found the Noxious Blight to be a waste of points. I need to get more games in against some gunlines to see, though.

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 Zid wrote:
Personal experience... Blightlords don't do enough damage for their points unless you have a Lord/Prince to help them reroll 1's. Even then, you may not be too impressed by them.

Is your arch contaminator lord wandering with the PM squads? If so, I'd recommend some PBC's to roll up with em or more drones; you need to maximize the impact of the contaminator, its a huge force multiplier.


That was the plan. And I see what you mean .. that termie squad while cool is the price of 2 crawlers or almost 2 drones ... 3 drones would be neat. I’m not sure how I feel about PBC. With spitters they are tanky drones and extra Dakka but fly is cool. Maybe 2:1 ratio ? I really like the termies but they are holding my list building back, points wise I think.

   
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LegioX217 wrote:
 Zid wrote:
Personal experience... Blightlords don't do enough damage for their points unless you have a Lord/Prince to help them reroll 1's. Even then, you may not be too impressed by them.

Is your arch contaminator lord wandering with the PM squads? If so, I'd recommend some PBC's to roll up with em or more drones; you need to maximize the impact of the contaminator, its a huge force multiplier.


That was the plan. And I see what you mean .. that termie squad while cool is the price of 2 crawlers or almost 2 drones ... 3 drones would be neat. I’m not sure how I feel about PBC. With spitters they are tanky drones and extra Dakka but fly is cool. Maybe 2:1 ratio ? I really like the termies but they are holding my list building back, points wise I think.



I've only had 3 games, and this is what 5 Melee Oriented blightlords with two sorcerer supports has accomplished:
Game 1 - Killed 10 Bikers over 5 turns of combat, but I lost all but one and both sorcerers in exchange.
Game 2 - Killed 15 orc Boyz, and 3 MANZ, then tied up Nobz the rest of the game until they fell back and PBC's blew them to bits.
Game 3 - Did 5 wounds to a Hive Tyrant, then locked in combat for 4 turns with a Carnifex.

They really lack the number of attacks to really do a lot, and WS3 also holds them back. Plasmas great, but unless your slogging, you'll find it hard to get in place (and with 4" movement... its SLOOOOWWW). PBC's are amazingly resilient, and yes, they play like cheaper drones if you use Spitter variants. Honestly, though, you'll be rolling them up alongside a ton of other threats. The Plaguespitters make many things think twice about charging; a possible 12 Str 7 auto-hit flamer shots is nothing to scoff at. Remember, they are stronger than Drones too.

I have been using 2 Drones and 2 PBC's with some success. Drones die faster, but they are more flexible, PBC's are sturdier, and hit harder.

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 Zid wrote:
LegioX217 wrote:
 Zid wrote:
Personal experience... Blightlords don't do enough damage for their points unless you have a Lord/Prince to help them reroll 1's. Even then, you may not be too impressed by them.

Is your arch contaminator lord wandering with the PM squads? If so, I'd recommend some PBC's to roll up with em or more drones; you need to maximize the impact of the contaminator, its a huge force multiplier.


That was the plan. And I see what you mean .. that termie squad while cool is the price of 2 crawlers or almost 2 drones ... 3 drones would be neat. I’m not sure how I feel about PBC. With spitters they are tanky drones and extra Dakka but fly is cool. Maybe 2:1 ratio ? I really like the termies but they are holding my list building back, points wise I think.



I've only had 3 games, and this is what 5 Melee Oriented blightlords with two sorcerer supports has accomplished:
Game 1 - Killed 10 Bikers over 5 turns of combat, but I lost all but one and both sorcerers in exchange.
Game 2 - Killed 15 orc Boyz, and 3 MANZ, then tied up Nobz the rest of the game until they fell back and PBC's blew them to bits.
Game 3 - Did 5 wounds to a Hive Tyrant, then locked in combat for 4 turns with a Carnifex.

They really lack the number of attacks to really do a lot, and WS3 also holds them back. Plasmas great, but unless your slogging, you'll find it hard to get in place (and with 4" movement... its SLOOOOWWW). PBC's are amazingly resilient, and yes, they play like cheaper drones if you use Spitter variants. Honestly, though, you'll be rolling them up alongside a ton of other threats. The Plaguespitters make many things think twice about charging; a possible 12 Str 7 auto-hit flamer shots is nothing to scoff at. Remember, they are stronger than Drones too.

I have been using 2 Drones and 2 PBC's with some success. Drones die faster, but they are more flexible, PBC's are sturdier, and hit harder.


Thanks for sharing your experiences despite it being unfortunate I do think removing the termies will be nice for my list. Though I did want to have something to DS, I guess fast things will work just as well... does this look better? I didn't pick up the 7th command point though...I didn't really want to spam 3 PBC/FBDs, which was another reason I had the third elite choice. I like how much casting I have now though with Necrosius, and the two pox blobs should take a good amount of fire. If I could fit a blightbringer in....


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [84 PL, 1495pts] ++

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 140pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Malefic talon, Miasma of Pestilence, The Suppurating Plate, Warlord, Wings

Necrosius the Undying [7 PL, 120pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Miasma of Pestilence, Putrescent Vitality

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Putrescent Vitality

+ Elites +

Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 77pts]

Helbrute [7 PL, 147pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon

+ Fast Attack +

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [10 PL, 153pts]
. Plague Champion: Plaguesword, Plasma gun
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [10 PL, 153pts]
. Plague Champion: Plaguesword, Plasma gun
. 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 96pts]: 16x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 96pts]: 16x Poxwalker

++ Total: [84 PL, 1495pts] ++

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Personally I'd swap the Hellbrute for a second FBD, but yes, looks great. Only reason is FBD's are really good (and Hellbrutes seem to work best when you have a bunch)

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 Zid wrote:
Personally I'd swap the Hellbrute for a second FBD, but yes, looks great. Only reason is FBD's are really good (and Hellbrutes seem to work best when you have a bunch)


Cool thanks! I'll consider a 2nd FBD. I like them very much. I have the helbrute for my much needed AT, as you can see I have basically none, except the PBC now if you can count that. I really just like them for that stratagem and because I have it built and ready to paint lol.. But I would have thought 1 would be good because the stratagem is only for 1 at a time anyway.

Two FBD with the arch contam prince will be devastating !

Btw, is the Foul Blightspawn considered an auto-include?

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LegioX217 wrote:
 Zid wrote:
Personally I'd swap the Hellbrute for a second FBD, but yes, looks great. Only reason is FBD's are really good (and Hellbrutes seem to work best when you have a bunch)


Cool thanks! I'll consider a 2nd FBD. I like them very much. I have the helbrute for my much needed AT, as you can see I have basically none, except the PBC now if you can count that. I really just like them for that stratagem and because I have it built and ready to paint lol.. But I would have thought 1 would be good because the stratagem is only for 1 at a time anyway.

Two FBD with the arch contam prince will be devastating !

Btw, is the Foul Blightspawn considered an auto-include?


For some. I have no experience with them, but they can definitely destroy things with that strong flamer. My newest list uses two, so I'll let you know when I try em!

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 Zid wrote:
LegioX217 wrote:
 Zid wrote:
Personally I'd swap the Hellbrute for a second FBD, but yes, looks great. Only reason is FBD's are really good (and Hellbrutes seem to work best when you have a bunch)


Cool thanks! I'll consider a 2nd FBD. I like them very much. I have the helbrute for my much needed AT, as you can see I have basically none, except the PBC now if you can count that. I really just like them for that stratagem and because I have it built and ready to paint lol.. But I would have thought 1 would be good because the stratagem is only for 1 at a time anyway.

Two FBD with the arch contam prince will be devastating !

Btw, is the Foul Blightspawn considered an auto-include?


For some. I have no experience with them, but they can definitely destroy things with that strong flamer. My newest list uses two, so I'll let you know when I try em!


Cool thanks, I'll try one out. Good luck with yours. The damage potential is there, and I mainly like how it could potentially save some units from eating the brunt of a charge.
   
 
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