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so based all my bases before glueing them on and now i dont know hot to get them on their bases
their bases are really small almost no space for pinning
their feet are too small for hot melt glue
my superglue doesnt stick plastic to sand
im lost

The superglue isn't bonding because there isn't enough surface for the glue to grip on to. You will have this issue on highly textured or oddly shaped base surfaces. You can put a tiny blob (like... a pin head) worth of greenstuff on the bottom of the feet to increase the glue-able surface area.

I usually put the superglue on the feet as a first step. Put the model where you want it to go on the base so that there is now superglue on the base AND on the feet, in the spots where you want. Then add your tiny dabs of greenstuff to the middle of the feet... (using a tiny amount is key, so that when you press down into the sand, it doesn't blob out around your model's feet). Then press your model onto the pre-glued areas so that the greenstuff will fill the crevices in the sand and you will get a much better bond.

Good luck!

 keezus wrote:
The superglue isn't bonding because there isn't enough surface for the glue to grip on to. You will have this issue on highly textured or oddly shaped base surfaces. You can put a tiny blob (like... a pin head) worth of greenstuff on the bottom of the feet to increase the glue-able surface area.

I usually put the superglue on the feet as a first step. Put the model where you want it to go on the base so that there is now superglue on the base AND on the feet, in the spots where you want. Then add your tiny dabs of greenstuff to the middle of the feet... (using a tiny amount is key, so that when you press down into the sand, it doesn't blob out around your model's feet). Then press your model onto the pre-glued areas so that the greenstuff will fill the crevices in the sand and you will get a much better bond.

Good luck!

sounds good, only problem is i dont have any greenstuff

This is "mistakes you make once" and probably every gamer/modeler has done this. Did you test fit a model while making all of your bases?

The slow, annoying, and aggravating solution to this is to carefully cut away the basing material (chisel tip Xacto, etc.) so that the feet lay flat on the base itself.

General rules of hobby thumb: any surface being glued to another surface should be flat and lightly sanded so that there is a bonding surface - regardless of superglue or plastic cement.

Now, you "could" try using a 5-minute epoxy. However that won't be the very best solution and may be really tough to pull off without being noticeable. Find a tiny brass rod or something where you can apply just enough epoxy to the models' feet. The 5-minute epoxy will dry much thicker, kinda like a hot glue gun. It'll be exceptionally strong and you'll never be able to remove the model without breaking it most likely.

In the future? Don't ever do bases before gluing models on...just doesn't work very well unless you're planning on pinning stuff and you plan ahead.

 Necronomic wrote:
sounds good, only problem is i dont have any greenstuff

Keep in mind this next suggestion is a TERRIBLE idea: Because you are trying to increase the gluable surface area... some guys in my gaming group have used tiny (and I mean TINY) bits of the grey sponge foam from blister packs to gap fill and increase gluable surface area in absence of greenstuff. IMHO, it is kind of a horrible bodge... but it sort of works in an emergency (due to its compressible nature).

like op, i did my first seperated base from model paint job on a custodes.
i simply applyed a decent sized blob of PVA under each foot.

it took half a day or more to dry, but i dryed clear so any spillage was hardly noticable.
it cant match the chemical weld that you get from plastic to plastic, but it so far holds up pretty good.

Pictures of the offending parties?

 mrhappyface wrote:
Pictures of the offending parties?

here

And why can't you pin that?

basically the feet stick out too much from the base so that i would have to drill so cole to the edge of the feet of the mini that it would break

 Necronomic wrote:
basically the feet stick out too much from the base so that i would have to drill so cole to the edge of the feet of the mini that it would break

Sorry, could you rephrase that?

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Necronomic wrote:
basically the feet stick out too much from the base so that i would have to drill so cole to the edge of the feet of the mini that it would break

Sorry, could you rephrase that?

the feet stick out way too much for me to be able to drill without the drill hole being too close to tge edge of the foot and breaking it

Seeing the pics I'd definitely say 5-minute epoxy.

Maybe get a thin bit of plastic off the sprue, glue it to the side of the base for the model to stand on? Then paint over it to cover it up? A bit of a bodge but it will be secure.

This is why I now do my bases after I stick the model down.

It may be a little danger zone but you could pin the legs in from the side instead. then hide it with a tuft or skull.

Personally i wouldn't and i would just get some gel super glue and some zip kicker and call it a day.

is that what this fuss is about?
tought you had like 0.1mm of contat surface or something like that.
you have half a flat foot on each side.

a blob of locktite superglue or pva glue will stick thouse legs firmly to the base until you drop the model on the floor!

Might be able to scrape away enough of the basing material to get a flat foothold for the legs to attach to. You'd risk damaging your otherwise nice basing job though.

Honestly, I'd try to stick it with a blob of superglue (probably the gel kind in this case) anyway and just wipe away any excess before it dries.

The key is you're positioning the feet too far back - if you position it so the Ankles are nearer the center of the base you can run the pin straight up the leg itself and use a long enough piece of wire that once you sink it into the base, you bend flat against the inside not unlike a staple.

Of course, there is also the option of selectively scraping the sand off the spot where you want to put the feet.