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Regular Dakkanaut




I have no clue how aos work. Is it possible to play with these guys in aos? Also can you play an army with Throgg + chaos troggoths and bullgors?
   
Made in se
Regular Dakkanaut




So I looked through The generals handbook 2 and cant see any troggoth allies for warherds. Is there any way to get troggoths into a chaos army?
   
Made in us
Clousseau




You just field them. If you aren't "allied" with them that means you would lose any faction specific allegiance benefits.

Ex: khorne, tzeentch, nurgle all have books and specific allegiance benefits. If you were running one of those factions and then tried to include the trolls, you'd not be able to run the specific allegiance benefits as well.

Sounds like you are fielding generic chaos anyway so you'd still get the generic chaos allegiance traits.
   
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler




Ireland

You can find the rules for Throgg and Chaos Troggoths in the Warriors of Chaos compendium.

Throgg is covered by the Troggoth King warscroll and Chaos Troggoths have their own. In Open or Narrative play you can take them as you like, that's between you and your opponent.

For a Pitched Battle you'd need to take a Chaos Grand Alliance army (so no specific faction rules beyond those of the GA) and some of the generic Chaos battleline units such as Chaos Warriors or Marauders. There'd be more in the Generals Handbook 2017.

There are Pitched Battle profiles at the end of that PDF which covers points and other info.

Bullgors are in the "Warherd" Chaos faction and while they're Battleline in a "Warherd" army (an army where every unit has the "Warherd" tag), they wouldn't satisfy the Battleline requirements in a Chaos Grand Alliance army. However you could take them without issue if you did have other units to fulfill that requirement.

Here is the Bullgor warscroll. Their Pitched Battle profile would be in the Generals Handbook 2017.
Also if you're intending to go down the Pitched Battle route, you can use Scrollbuilder to put together army lists.

By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!

- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos


 
   
Made in se
Regular Dakkanaut




Wow that's a lot of info. I thought the purpose of AoS was to make things simpler. I gotta read a bunch to get the grips on this it seems.
   
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler




Ireland

FudgeDumper wrote:
Wow that's a lot of info. I thought the purpose of AoS was to make things simpler. I gotta read a bunch to get the grips on this it seems.


Haha yeah, that was the initial intent and to be honest, Open play is simple. Literally take any models you like, as does your opponent and then just use the standard AoS rules and Warscrolls. "Balance" for what it's worth is judged based on number of Wounds on each side (and a gentleman's agreement) and the underdog can gain a Triumph or other benefit. This is expanded by the Open War cards if you have them to add some further elements but that's it.

It's because people wanted more complexity and a more neutral balancing method that Pitched Battles got introduced, but it isn't necessary in order to have a game. Plus you can still use the points from Scrollbuilder or elsewhere to build a roughly balanced army for Open Play.


By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!

- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos


 
   
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Executing Exarch






It is pretty simple.

1. Choose your Allegiance. You can pick any units that belong to that allegiance. If the allegiance has special abilities listed in a Battletome or the General's Handbook, you now have access to them.
2. You may add Allies from a different allegiance up to a limit. For example, in a 2000 point game you can have 400 points of Allies. Your available allies are listed in the General's Handbook.

That's it. In this case, you want Allegiance: Chaos, which allows you to use any unit with the CHAOS keyword in your army. This would include both Troggoths and Bullgors. And there you go.

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Regular Dakkanaut




But warherds dont have keyword "chaos" they only have "Chaos Gargants, Monsters of Chaos, Thunderscorn, Brayherds".

PS: Oh never mind I was looking at the "alliance" keywords.

PS again: Looking at the back of generals handbook 2017 there is no listing for chaos troggoths or throgg.

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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler




Ireland

FudgeDumper wrote:
But warherds dont have keyword "chaos" they only have "Chaos Gargants, Monsters of Chaos, Thunderscorn, Brayherds".

PS: Oh never mind I was looking at the "alliance" keywords.

PS again: Looking at the back of generals handbook 2017 there is no listing for chaos troggoths or throgg.


Yeah they're not in the GHB as they're in the Warriors of Chaos compendium (which you can find here). They're towards the back and the Pitched Battle profiles are at the very back.
The compendiums are where GW keep the rules for miniatures and some factions that don't really have an equivalent in AoS yet.

By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!

- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos


 
   
Made in se
Executing Exarch






FudgeDumper wrote:
But warherds dont have keyword "chaos" they only have "Chaos Gargants, Monsters of Chaos, Thunderscorn, Brayherds".

PS: Oh never mind I was looking at the "alliance" keywords.

PS again: Looking at the back of generals handbook 2017 there is no listing for chaos troggoths or throgg.


Keywords are on individual models, just like in 40k. What you were looking at was the list of allies.
   
Made in se
Regular Dakkanaut




Alright I think I'm getting the hang of it. I found this warscroll for Throgg, where he is actually called Throgg and not just Troggoth king. Which one of the warscrolls is the official one?
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Made in us
Clousseau




You can use either iif you aren't planning on playing in any event.

If you are trying to play in public events, the last one would be as close to the "official" one as you could get (troggoth king), though some events bar anything from the compendiums that aren't in the ghb 2017.
   
 
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