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I remember seeing a number of 40k players talking about how they thought slaanesh needed to be killed off as he was 'an 80's thing' from the old ' sex drugs rocknroll' mentality. It seemed a vocal bunch wanted slaanesh killed off.

Now we have bobby's girlfriend come up with a plan to kill slaanesh by having the eldar commit suicide.

Soooo, does anyone think that the great evil power, GW, might be planning to kill slaanesh? If so would it be replaced by a new chaos god? What would you think a new chaos god should represent? Greed?

I'm not sure about killing slaanesh. I mean I don't play slaanesh armies and I'm. Not interested in one, but slaanesh has been part of 40k since the beginning and things just wouldn't feel the same without it. Also the fundamental idea of hedonism is a deeply ingrained human trait that fits the chaos motif. Personally I don't want slaanesh offed even tho I know it may not be a popular army.

Speaking in game, I think Tzeentch would block any effort to kill slaanesh as if not for slaanesh khorne might turn it's hostility on tzeentch, and the lord of change probably doesn't want two divine enemies focusing on it. Also pappy nurgle might not want slaanesh killed as it's followers do such a swell job of spreading certain diseases.



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I say let's give them a shot and see what happens. If it fails that's one less xeno race to deal with.
   
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Slaanesh was pretty much killed off in AoS. I pretty much stopped playing fantasy at the start of 8th so I couldn't tell how big a deal this made with the fans. They could still use their armies, it was just the actual God who had gone AWOL.

I don't think it is so likely in 40K because Slaanesh is closely tied to both the Eldar pathos and to the Emperor's children. Fulgrim is still a significant character in the HH novels and the recent SW novel hinted we might be seeing him in 40K sooner or later.

I have a hunch Slaanesh will be remaining in 40K because to remove him/her would seriously gut the background of the ECs, and all the Eldar factions.

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 ProwlerPC wrote:
I say let's give them a shot and see what happens. If it fails that's one less xeno race to deal with.


OK the imperium might see it that way, but if the plan goes south slaanesh could absorb a huge amount of eldar souls in one big gulp. Might have some bummer implications for the human race if slaanesh got a sudden massive speed rush.

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Hmm no the Ynnari do not want the Eldar to commit suicide in order to defeat Slaanesh.
In the long run there is pretty much 3 ways to *truly defeat* Slaanesh according to lore even when most of it is tied to Novellas (Gav Thorpe ones mostly)

Harlequins try to perform Cegorach final jest, an incredible trick to cheat Slaanesh and force her to save the Eldar instead devouring them.

Ynnari try to *fully awake* Ynnead wich in turn should be strong enough to defeat Slaanesh in order to do this they need to gather the 5 Crone Swords only the last one missing and recently they got control of a quiteancient Craftworld with crap tons of relics from the Ancient days.

Finally the Asura (Phoenix Lords) seems to follow some kind of Fate of wich the final purpose it's in the best of cases taking Slaanesh/chaos down when the Eldar finally die once and for all.


The final thing it's Slaanesh it's more easily represented by sexual excess but there is a lot of other ways to represent such excess, fanatical military/figthing excelence or unbridled Gluttony can also be aspects and manifestations of Slaanesh followers but people often forget that.



P.S: i always tought a whole army of Cannibalistic people with no other desire than to eat/taste everything in the galaxy as the ultimate pleasure seekers would be quite fitting for a Slaanesh cult.

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Well Daughters of Khaine are pretty female and brazen in the chest area - at least as much as current Deamonetts are. Also the whole 80s thing doesn't really hold water with me when you consider how insanely popular Kingdom Death is and that game goes way further with the brazen - ahem - pinup style nudity aspects.


Also in AOS Slannesh was captured and is held captive, but the current Daughters of Khaine book fairly clearly outlines that the powers that hold him in captivity have a weakness. I think its well setup to have Slannesh escape from captivity and rise to power again.


The rumours of demise are mostly there because its been ages since that faction had any update of models; whilst the other three chaos lords have. Of course GW only updates armies one at a time so from the four lords one had to come last when getting updated.

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 Lord Perversor wrote:
Hmm no the Ynnari do not want the Eldar to commit suicide in order to defeat Slaanesh.
In the long run there is pretty much 3 ways to *truly defeat* Slaanesh according to lore even when most of it is tied to Novellas (Gav Thorpe ones mostly)

Harlequins try to perform Cegorach final jest, an incredible trick to cheat Slaanesh and force her to save the Eldar instead devouring them.

Ynnari try to *fully awake* Ynnead wich in turn should be strong enough to defeat Slaanesh in order to do this they need to gather the 5 Crone Swords only the last one missing and recently they got control of a quiteancient Craftworld with crap tons of relics from the Ancient days.

Finally the Asura (Phoenix Lords) seems to follow some kind of Fate of wich the final purpose it's in the best of cases taking Slaanesh/chaos down when the Eldar finally die once and for all.


The final thing it's Slaanesh it's more easily represented by sexual excess but there is a lot of other ways to represent such excess, fanatical military/figthing excelence or unbridled Gluttony can also be aspects and manifestations of Slaanesh followers but people often forget that.



P.S: i always tought a whole army of Cannibalistic people with no other desire than to eat/taste everything in the galaxy as the ultimate pleasure seekers would be quite fitting for a Slaanesh cult.


One synopsis of ynari's plan I heard was some sort of racial suicide on a way that kept slaany from eating their souls but the fear was all the soulstones accumulated would. Make a target for slaaneshi. Forces. Was that inaccurate?



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 Overread wrote:
Well Daughters of Khaine are pretty female and brazen in the chest area - at least as much as current Deamonetts are. Also the whole 80s thing doesn't really hold water with me when you consider how insanely popular Kingdom Death is and that game goes way further with the brazen - ahem - pinup style nudity aspects.


Also in AOS Slannesh was captured and is held captive, but the current Daughters of Khaine book fairly clearly outlines that the powers that hold him in captivity have a weakness. I think its well setup to have Slannesh escape from captivity and rise to power again.


The rumours of demise are mostly there because its been ages since that faction had any update of models; whilst the other three chaos lords have. Of course GW only updates armies one at a time so from the four lords one had to come last when getting updated.


Maybe for once they can make a slaanesh. Model that looks sexy instead of creepy.. Seriously, WTF has giant lobster claw fetish. The sight of most slaanesh forces is pretty far from seductive.

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@Techpriestsupport well at the very beginning the general idea for the Eldar was that when enough/all of them where dead in that final moment then all the souls will awaken Ynnead with enough strength to finish Slaanesh.

Since the events of Death Masque and Eldrad meddling (he attempted to awaken Ynnead early in order to avoid the death of all Eldar ) that's no longer the case.
   
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 Karhedron wrote:
Slaanesh was pretty much killed off in AoS. I pretty much stopped playing fantasy at the start of 8th so I couldn't tell how big a deal this made with the fans. They could still use their armies, it was just the actual God who had gone AWOL.

Please stop repeating this garbage. People spread that crap day one of AoS and still maintain it to this day; despite the fact that we just had a big release("Daughters of Khaine") which gives a glimpse as to the why and how of Slaanesh having been captured by Tyrion+Teclis, Malerion, and Morathi.

We knew early on that Slaanesh wasn't dead, wasn't being killed of, wasn't being anythinged. It's just people started spreading the rumor and because people didn't bother reading anything other than the army books(none of which dealt with Slaanesh in real detail--since Stormcast and Bloodbound didn't have anything to do with its capture), they grabbed on and held onto it.

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GW have explicitly said there's a Slaanesh release coming now, so I think it's very safe to say the plan isn't to kill Slaanesh off.

Obviously the big question this presents is if Archaon gets a fourth dragon head to glue on...
   
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Overread wrote:Also in AOS Slannesh was captured and is held captive, but the current Daughters of Khaine book fairly clearly outlines that the powers that hold him in captivity have a weakness. I think its well setup to have Slannesh escape from captivity and rise to power again..

Yes. Slaanesh is held captive between two planes while the Aelf gods recover the Aelf souls from her. Being between two planes maker her invisible to everyone. But Morathi, who was needed by the other gods to cast the spell needed, was greedy and added a backdoor to steal more Aelf souls for herself. This has the effect of slowly bringing Slaanesh closer to her plane. Because of that, the Fiends of Slaanesh start to pick up their master's smell, and are tracking her down.
So this very strongly hints as Slaanesh being eventually found and freed by her minions.

One can only imagine that when new Slaanesh stuff will get released for AoS, some kits will be compatible with 40K, and we'll see something in the lore to match it.
   
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 The Phazer wrote:
GW have explicitly said there's a Slaanesh release coming now, so I think it's very safe to say the plan isn't to kill Slaanesh off.

Obviously the big question this presents is if Archaon gets a fourth dragon head to glue on...

Probably not. Slaanesh is actually represented on the Archaon model(his shield has the Slaaneshi icon), just Dorghar didn't eat a Keeper of Secrets since Slaanesh wasn't there to send "their greatest champion" like the other three were.
   
 
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