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This is a combined arms list, with Iron Hands and Guard teaming up with Ogryn and Fallen to deliver melee advantage. I haven't chosen a Regimental Doctrine as of yet.

+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [118 PL, 2000pts] +++

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [64 PL, 1018pts] ++

+ Flyer [22 PL, 460pts] +

Vendetta Gunship [11 PL, 230pts]
. . Vendetta [11 PL, 230pts]: 2 Twin Lascannons [80pts], Twin lascannon [40pts]

Vendetta Gunship [11 PL, 230pts]
. . Vendetta [11 PL, 230pts]: 2 Twin Lascannons [80pts], Twin lascannon [40pts]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Astra Millitarum/Imperium

+ HQ [4 PL, 62pts] +

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun [1pts], Chainsword

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun [1pts], Chainsword

+ Elites [26 PL, 336pts] +

Bullgryns [13 PL, 168pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn Bone 'ead [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]

Bullgryns [13 PL, 168pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]
. . Bullgryn Bone 'ead [42pts]: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul [7pts]

+ Troops [12 PL, 160pts] +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts]
. . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts]
. . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts]
. . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts]
. . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [54 PL, 982pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands

+ Dedicated Transport [20 PL, 458pts] +

Razorback [5 PL, 114pts]: Twin assault cannon [44pts]

Razorback [5 PL, 114pts]: Twin assault cannon [44pts]

Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun [45pts]

Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun [45pts]

+ HQ [8 PL, 174pts] +

Lieutenants [4 PL, 87pts]
. . Lieutenant [4 PL, 87pts]: Combi-plasma [15pts], Power fist [12pts]

Lieutenants [4 PL, 87pts]
. . Lieutenant [4 PL, 87pts]: Combi-plasma [15pts], Power fist [12pts]

+ Elites [26 PL, 350pts] +

Fallen [6 PL, 81pts]
. . Fallen Champion [21pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power axe [5pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]

Fallen [6 PL, 81pts]
. . Fallen Champion [21pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power axe [5pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]
. . Fallen w/Melee Weapon [15pts]: Chainaxe [1pts]

Sternguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 94pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Veteran Sergeant [22pts]: Power sword [4pts], Storm bolter [2pts]

Sternguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 94pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Space Marine Veteran [18pts]: Storm bolter [2pts]
. . Veteran Sergeant [22pts]: Power sword [4pts], Storm bolter [2pts]

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I maybe missing something, but doesn't having the fallen as part of the marine detachment mean they aren't all Iron hands - So doesn't count as as a IH only detachment so you won't get their chapter tactics?

Nowhere does it say that.

But I'd be willing to take it as a handicap.

it might be my interpretation but the marine codex states

"If your army is Battle-forged, all INFANTRY, BIKER and DREADNOUGHT units in a Space Marines Detachment gain
a Chapter Tactic, so long as every unit in that Detachment is drawn from the same Chapter."

not sure if the fallen state a chapter or not but they must share the same as the IH for it to be battle forged. But like you said, your not too fussed about the chapter tactic as you seem to have some specific plans for the fallen so it doesn't matter

I don't think taking fallen should cost you your chapter tactics and if it did there is something wrong with the way its being interpreted.

I believe you can have different chapter tactics and doctrines, ect. for different detachments so long as they are painted correctly.

Painting doesn't matter in the rules at all, although i think someone who has a painted army wins the moral victory!
For a detachment it must be one army only to get the chapter tactics/ regimental doctrine.
While i get your point about the fallen, if the rules say it must be a way otherwise you lose your chapter tactics - that's the rules, i agree you can have different detachments with each having separate CT's, but you can not have a single one (l like your space marine one appeared with IH and fallen) and still get any chapter tactics for that detachment.



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unless they have a specific rule of course. I know some guard units have this for instance.

Well, I suppose I would still get my regimental doctrine then, correct?

Absolutely