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Hi guys,
I created a dataslate for Ciaphas Cain and Jurgen to use in my games with my gaming group and would love to have some feedback from the community.
https://imgur.com/HjRpcBG

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Krieg! What a hole...

I'd switch the BS values of Cain and Jurgen, the latter makes some truly wicked shots with his lasgun (which he should have), Jurgen gets carapace armor as well in the first book, that's how he survives a bolt pistol shot to the head, and Cain has no refractor field.

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I think Jurgen shouldn't have good BS, just get rerolls to hit when he is near Cain.
   
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Krieg! What a hole...

Why?

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Because of his insane luck when Cain is near. I don't think that he should have great ballistic skill at all times though. That doesn't fell lucky, poor BS with rerolls to hit does feel lucky.
   
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 Bobthehero wrote:
I'd switch the BS values of Cain and Jurgen, the latter makes some truly wicked shots with his lasgun (which he should have), Jurgen gets carapace armor as well in the first book, that's how he survives a bolt pistol shot to the head, and Cain has no refractor field.
I am 100% sure he had a refractor field at least loaned to him at some point, I distinctly remember him surviving a plasma shot because of it, it was in the convent with the Heretical Inquisitor, right?

I'd like for Jurgen to have a Lasgun as well as his trusty melta.
   
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Thx for the answers
I try to stay as close to the basic statlines as I can so Jurgen as the statline for a veteran (+1W, +1Ld) and Cain the statline for a Lord Commissar because I want a middle ground between playability and faithfullness to the books.
The problem with giving Jurgen his lasgun would be that with the current ruleset he could fire both in each Shooting phase.
But I could give him a carapace armor, that wouldn't be too strange

   
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UK

I like it ALOT

Suggestions: Give Jurgan the meltagun as an option to replace Lasgun? - he does not always have it.
I'd drop the Refractor Field and just give him a "lucky" Invulnerable save.

Tend to agree about Jurgan being a better shot than H-t-h fighter, IG Vets are +1 BS.

Are you doing Amberely in her Artifcer Armour?

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Great ideas
I updated the first post !

   
 
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