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2018/04/05 12:45:45
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Was browsing the forums over at No Dice No Glory and one of the old BF forum stalwarts posted these images (evidently from somewhere off Facebook). Reposting them here for folks who don't wander too far away from the confines of the Dakkaverse:
Book Cover:
French Starter Force:
NATO Starter Force:
Mmmmmm, more plastic tanks. No word on release date, though with the FoW release schedule running to May with Armored Fist, I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's a June release. If anyone's run across more information please do share.
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2018/04/05 13:09:48
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Sweet. I just expanded my list out a bit more. Still waiting on some VADS to come in, but I've almost got my 100 points together.
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2018/04/05 14:46:11
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Lieutenant General
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Still no Swedish S-Tanks
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2018/04/06 02:31:30
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Executing Exarch
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Weren't the Swedes officially neutral? I suspect it'll be a while before we see any of their stuff that can't be used by another country.
The Leopard I box seems to have mysteriously vanished from the On-Line store. Between that, and the picture from the NATO's First Line box cover, I'm guessing that they're going to release a plastic Leopard I. I'm sure most of NATO will appreciate that.
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2018/04/06 02:59:37
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Lieutenant General
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I've never had the chance to read Harold Coyle's book so I'm not sure if they were neutral or not, nor if they remained that way f they were.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/04/06 05:09:48
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Executing Exarch
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Ghaz wrote:
I've never had the chance to read Harold Coyle's book so I'm not sure if they were neutral or not, nor if they remained that way f they were.
Actually, I'm talking real world.
Also, they're not in Coyle's book, nor would they really have anything to do with it. The action in that novel is fairly local. IIRC, the only non-US NATO forces in the book are some troops from West Germany. The Swedes are probably mentioned in Hackett's book, though, which Coyle's book uses as the setting.
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2018/04/06 12:41:10
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Eumerin wrote:
Weren't the Swedes officially neutral? I suspect it'll be a while before we see any of their stuff that can't be used by another country.
The Leopard I box seems to have mysteriously vanished from the On-Line store. Between that, and the picture from the NATO's First Line box cover, I'm guessing that they're going to release a plastic Leopard I. I'm sure most of NATO will appreciate that.
Not to be TFG, but the plastic Leo 1 was announced by BF in their Christmas video. Screengrab from 5:34 showing the two variants it will build:
French plastic models are also visible at 5:00 and the plastic T-55 (which is partly released at this point; sort of... *waits on US to receive stock*) at 5:59.
As far as the Swedes, they'd be a very difficult force to include gameplay-wise, I'd imagine. The S-tank is very much a defensive weapon, and for the Swedish it would likely have served admirably in that role. The fixed gun mount would have made it much weaker in an assault situation, but the Swedes realistically never felt like they were going to be in much of an attacking position given who their likely opponents would be in any conflict. Hence, the S-Tank was a pretty great idea for what they were looking to accomplish in reality. Translating the limitations of a purely defensive doctrine onto the tabletop without doing things like "auto-defend" seems tricky.
I suppose in a world where we've brought in the Sgt. York though, S-Tanks on the attack wouldn't be the weirdest thing about the setup. Personally I'd like for them to make plastic Centurions (Stridsvagn 81 in Swedish service, and they still would have been active in '85) and resin S-Tanks for a Swedish force. If the Aussies warrant a list, then so do the Swedes! Plus Centurion is another of those designs that "deserves" to be in plastic since they can be used from Korea through to the Team Yankee era in second-line formations.
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2018/04/06 16:51:53
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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I'm surprised they remembered us!
It'll be interesting to see what the Dutch will bring to the game.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2018/04/06 18:08:33
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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BrookM wrote:I'm surprised they remembered us!
It'll be interesting to see what the Dutch will bring to the game.
West German Lite I'm guessing.
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2018/04/06 19:38:12
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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Makes sense I guess, we used German tanks. Would be nice to see plastic YP, YPR and DAF trucks, but I doubt it.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2018/04/06 19:46:59
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Poland and the Czechs next please!
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
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2018/04/07 06:41:57
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Yeah, at this point, we really really need more Warsaw Pact.
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2018/04/08 07:21:31
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Executing Exarch
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The release of France means that the last of the "big" NATO nations is out. And the other nations in the book probably won't need much in the way of new figures, which is no doubt why they were bundled in (even if the ANZACs are a bit of a stretch; the official explanation provided is that the unit present was "on a training mission in Europe" when the war started). So yeah, hopefully Poland and Czechoslovakia should be next. They're the other northern Pact nations, and so would be the opponents for the NATO nations released to date. At that point, the only military missing from the map on pages 4-5 would be the Belgian Army.
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2018/04/08 19:47:11
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Needs Belgians.
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The black rage is within us all. Lies offer no shield against it. You speak of donning the black of duty for the red of brotherhood; but it is the black of rage you shall wear when the end comes.
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2018/04/09 14:52:27
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Yes, it seems like since they were a "on the map" faction that they would have been included, especially over ANZAC. I guess BF isn't really committed to the Belgians and they're...waffling?
Eh?
Eh?
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I'll get my coat.
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2018/04/09 15:38:59
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I believe it was stated that the next stop for TY after this was "oil war" - Iraq and Iran which would be a mix of Soviet and NATO assets.
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2018/04/10 18:24:51
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Executing Exarch
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chaos0xomega wrote:I believe it was stated that the next stop for TY after this was "oil war" - Iraq and Iran which would be a mix of Soviet and NATO assets.
And when combined with the existing kit, that would be enough to let you refight Desert Storm (aside from imortant missing stuff like, you know, the BRADLEY).
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2018/04/10 19:20:44
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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chaos0xomega wrote:I believe it was stated that the next stop for TY after this was "oil war" - Iraq and Iran which would be a mix of Soviet and NATO assets.
Any source on that ? I've heard Iran/Iraq was "wouldn't it be cool ?", but never that it was actually in the works.
The TY Arab Israeli book is scheduled for late june.
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2018/04/10 20:12:06
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
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Yes, I'd like to know more of such rumors myself.
Down the road I think it'd be interesting to see a "Waking Dragon" (or some such book) for China where they're somewhat their own faction (i.e. - not allied with the Soviets). The Far East would still be an arena for conflict with a China-backed North Korea making a grab for the South (as the US would be distracted) while China looks to consolidate power over SE Asia. There'd be a better justification for ANZAC forces in that theater as well, since they'd already be defined for Europe. That would then make the "oil war" a potential four-way fight between the Arab nations, WARPAC, China and NATO/Israel. Pure wish-listing there though.
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2018/04/10 22:54:07
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Only thing I've heard is they'll be shifting to the mid-90's. A late 80's conflict seems kind of silly... since they're already doing that.
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2018/04/12 10:37:24
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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So.
https://www.team-yankee.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=6049
"More squeeing than a bus-full of japanese school girls at a Prada sale"
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2018/04/12 13:07:49
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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djones520 wrote:Only thing I've heard is they'll be shifting to the mid-90's. A late 80's conflict seems kind of silly... since they're already doing that.
so they are doing what they did to ww2? early, mid, late war.
80s, 90s, 00s.....
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2018/04/12 13:12:03
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
While I'm dubious that we'll see it on the shelves in the US before the end of May, I'm not going to upset if it does in fact make it either. My wallet might prefer a June on-the-shelf date though, especially if Imperial Knights kick off May.
So many Leopards...
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2018/04/12 13:58:18
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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FrozenDwarf wrote:
so they are doing what they did to ww2? early, mid, late war.
80s, 90s, 00s.....
They officially announced just that last year, yes.
Early TY will be 60s-70s, with Vietnam already released, and Fate of a Nation (Arab-israeli wars) to be released in june. Possible other theaters have been mentionned, including a 60s version of TY's cold war gone hot.
Mid-TY is the current game, though there's talk of expanding beyond Europe.
Late-TY will be more modern engagements, 90s and beyond.
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2018/04/12 15:05:40
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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HudsonD wrote: FrozenDwarf wrote:
so they are doing what they did to ww2? early, mid, late war.
80s, 90s, 00s.....
They officially announced just that last year, yes.
Early TY will be 60s-70s, with Vietnam already released, and Fate of a Nation (Arab-israeli wars) to be released in june. Possible other theaters have been mentionned, including a 60s version of TY's cold war gone hot.
Mid-TY is the current game, though there's talk of expanding beyond Europe.
Late-TY will be more modern engagements, 90s and beyond.
havent payed attension to anything fow related since 4th edition dropped.
so will the viet/FoaN officialy be incorperated into the TY whit new point cost and statcard and whatnot that current TY has, or will it stay as the standalone as it is and only be linked to TY by means of lore/fiction?
i have been wanting to collect a IDF force too, but if that stuff will be revamped i`ll wait.
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2018/04/12 16:31:44
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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FrozenDwarf wrote:
So will the viet/FoaN officialy be incorperated into the TY whit new point cost and statcard and whatnot that current TY has, or will it stay as the standalone as it is and only be linked to TY by means of lore/fiction?
I don't understand your question ? Vietnam already has been updated to TY (well, V4 actually), with the 100 points system, and statcards, FoaN should do so by june.
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2018/04/12 16:38:37
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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HudsonD wrote: FrozenDwarf wrote:
So will the viet/FoaN officialy be incorperated into the TY whit new point cost and statcard and whatnot that current TY has, or will it stay as the standalone as it is and only be linked to TY by means of lore/fiction?
I don't understand your question ? Vietnam already has been updated to TY (well, V4 actually), with the 100 points system, and statcards, FoaN should do so by june.
last time i looked at vietnam, it had the same point system as ww2 late war and was basicly a stand alone game, just as the FoaN booklet i got for free from a issue of wargames illustrated.
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2018/04/12 16:49:15
Subject: Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Ah.
Well, look again, then.
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2018/04/12 17:20:31
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Specifically look at:
https://vietnam.team-yankee.com/
Though the URL may contain a hint that this was done too...
Still waiting on my order from the sale though... It's a good thing I have a decades-long painting backlog. Though all of my Team Yankee stuff is actually all assembled/sorted except for some Soviet Heavy Weapons teams. If only I could move on with the "painted" step...
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2018/04/13 01:55:57
Subject: Re:Team Yankee Free Nations Teasers
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Executing Exarch
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To add (just in case it wasn't clear), 'Nam and the new Fate of a Nation book will be completely compatible points-wise. So it will be entirely possibly to use an Israeli paratrooper list against a VC list in an ahistorical match-up.
Of course, whether or not that'll actually be a good match-up (since the two lists are designed for entirely different opponents) is another story entirely. But points-wise, it'll work.
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