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Regular Dakkanaut



Denmark

As per the BR FAQ update, can you now shoot pistols into CC?

Can the left green unit shoot the red (enemy) unit that's within 1 inch of the other green, assuming they have a weapon with a 12 inch range and the pistol keyword?

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/04/16 20:49:50


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If all green models are one unit you can use your pistols.

If the ones on the left are part of a different unit you can not target the red models with any shooting attack.
See 3.2. Choose Targets Models cannot target enemy units that are within 1" of friendly models – the risk of hitting your own roops is too great.
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BR FAQ?

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The new rulebook FAQ.

And no, you still can't fire pistols "into" a melee.
   
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 BaconCatBug wrote:
The new rulebook FAQ.


I assumed he meant that but I can not find anything about changed shooting rules in there?

@FunJohn:

Maybe next time quote the important part for clarification.

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If Slaanesh wants pleasure, then we´ll give him DEATH, the greatest pleasure known to man!
If Tzeentch asks for forbidden knowledge, then we will enlighten him with fear of The God Machine!
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Okay, found it. This is interesting.

So if we take this example:



And let's say A + C and B + D are seperate units then the model on the right in unit B has to shoot at unit C.

Q: If my unit, which is equipped with Pistols, is within 1" of an enemy unit in the Shooting phase, but the closest enemy unit to some of the models in my unit is actually another enemy unit (i.e. not the enemy unit that is within 1" of my nit), which unit do those models shoot at?
A: Each individual model in your unit can shoot its Pistols at the closest enemy unit, whether it is the unit within 1" of the firing model’s unit or not (in such circumstances, the firing model can shoot the closest unit even if other friendly units are within 1" of it).

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If Khorne needs blood, will drown him in his own blood!
If Slaanesh wants pleasure, then we´ll give him DEATH, the greatest pleasure known to man!
If Tzeentch asks for forbidden knowledge, then we will enlighten him with fear of The God Machine!
If Nurgle wants us to embrace rebirth, then to hell with that, the Guard embrace Death, we live to DIE! 
   
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The rules for pistols say
A model can fire a Pistol even if there are
enemy units within 1" of its own unit, but
it must target the closest enemy unit. In
such circumstances, the model can shoot
its Pistol even if other friendly units are
within 1" of the same enemy unit.
'In such circumstances' refers to being within 1" of an enemy unit.
If your not within 1" of an enemy your not allowed to shoot enemy units within 1" of a friendly.

So you can only shoot pistols into combat when you are in combat yourself.

What the Faq cleared up is that you must target the closest unit on a model by model bases and that means you can be forced to shoot at a different enemy unit then the one you are engaged with.
As Zeshi shows. it indeed means that the right most model in B has to shoot at C(proving its an enemy) even tho it is in combat with D(assuming its friendly).
   
 
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