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I'm still relatively new to the hobby so this could be a dumb question, but I'm wanting to buy some Swooping Hawks and have an Exarch as well but I can't seem to find a listing for the Exarchs on the GW website. Does this mean that the Swooping Hawks box comes with the bits to make an Exarch or am I going to have to look elsewhere?

Not an Eldar player, but I have been always under the impression that Mr. Pointy-spaceelf-dude in the box is the exarch. No ideas about wargear, though. Does the exarch have different weapons than the standard hawks?

Swooping hawks, striking scorpions, howling bansheesh and probably few other aspects as well come as finecast box of 5 regular guys+exarch. Bit annoying getting full squad as you end up with spare exarch :(

Awesome! Thanks for that. Now to tackle my first finecast models haha.

They Arnt finecast they are a better resin that's hand poured, they gave up on spin moulding cheap resin thankfully.

Worst you should get is flash you'll need to trim off.

Supranaut wrote:
Awesome! Thanks for that. Now to tackle my first finecast models haha.

They aren't as bad as the reputation says. That was mostly from early batch. But for example tank bustas and weirdboy I got last week were perfect with zero flaws.

Only thing to keep in mind is use super glue rather than plastic glue and you'll do fine Plastic glue unsurprisingly doesn't work with them

Actually, I'll disagree - they're just as bad as people say.

I'm not a fan of finecast in general, but at least being light-weight will make it easier for you to keep your hawks from tipping over. My hawks are metal, and keeping them upright is always a challenge.

Put them on a bigger base I don't thing anyone will complain too much.

As for finecast when it first came out it was atrocious I had a necron Lord with his entire chest caved in because of a bubble, a cryptek perpetually leaning over drunk, bent staves etc.

One friend had to replace drago's arm with a plastic one as the shoulder was gone.

Another got a model online and had to take it to the local store it took five blisters being opened to get a complete model.

So let's not white wash how fekking terrible the failcast episode was.

Cheap resin (13,p a gallon) and incorrect method of casting was a failure.

I would use conversions for these models. They are old and not that great looking.

The Swooping Hawk models look great but you need to be careful of wings falling off. Now only 3 of my 6 models look great.

pm713 wrote:
The Swooping Hawk models look great but you need to be careful of wings falling off. Now only 3 of my 6 models look great.

Same problem with mine. 1 fell of a very small terrain feature and exploded. A few broke coming out of cases. I can't even use them anymore because they keep breaking. Never liked their look to begin with though.

 Xenomancers wrote:

pm713 wrote:
The Swooping Hawk models look great but you need to be careful of wings falling off. Now only 3 of my 6 models look great.

Same problem with mine. 1 fell of a very small terrain feature and exploded. A few broke coming out of cases. I can't even use them anymore because they keep breaking. Never liked their look to begin with though.

I have two missing wings and the exarch broke off at the foot and slipped during the reattachment so he falls over all the time now.

A broken wing can be reattached. The worst problem I've had with my metal ones is longer drops, because with the way they attach to their base if the model falls and lands on the edge of the base, the weight of the metal can make the rest of the model keep going and bend it over at the foot. Then when you pick the model up you realise that your hawk is now doing a faceplant. That's happened to two of mine now, just in the process of building and painting them! One snapped off at the foot while I tried to bend it back upright so I had to make a repair with a drill and a bit of paperclip which has held admirably so far. The other I managed to bend back upright without breaking it, which was a relief.

I like the models, but I'd be interested to see what GW would do with them now if they gave them the plastic treatment, given the example of the Dark Eldar Scourges kit.

It was. Many times. There comes a point where you just stop.

hobojebus wrote:


So let's not white wash how fekking terrible the failcast episode was.

Cheap resin (13,p a gallon) and incorrect method of casting was a failure.

Oh I'm not saying how it was then as I didn't buy much then(bought like 2 models with zero problems then). But these days I have been buying whole bunch of resin models and have yet to find casting error in any of my models.

But just because it was bad then doesn't automatically mean it's bad now. I don't trust "it sucked at release. Finecast sucks!" comments much. If there's up to date complains preferably with pictures I'll listen. Until then I trust what I have seen with my own eyes which is zero flaw castings so far.