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Hello all,

I posted this list a week or so ago and despite getting over 100 views, no-one bothered to reply with any advice or comments. I'm really hoping to try some new stuff, mainly the Fire Raptor and Leviathan so I'm hoping posting it again will get some comments.


My standard Marine list usually comprises of Lias Issodon combined with Devastator Squads, and this list has been very successful. The only things it struggled against were very competitive lists, usually Hellblasters backed up by Guilliman and an Ancient.

With the changes to the FAQ, I've decided to shift this list around a bit, try some new units. I've kept the backbone of the list the same, but added some things I've never used before.


**Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 74pts]: Chainsword, Teeth of Terra

Librarian [6 PL, 96pts]: 1) Veil of Time, 2) Might of Heroes, 3) Psychic Scourge, 4) Fury of the Ancients, 5) Psychic Fortress, 6) Null Zone, Boltgun, Force stave

Lieutenants [4 PL, 60pts]: Lieutenant

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 180pts]: Bolt rifle, 9x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Tactical Squad [9 PL, 183pts]
. 7x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Tactical Squad [9 PL, 183pts]
. 7x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Terminator Squad [12 PL, 202pts]: Teleport Homer
. Terminator Sergeant: Power sword, Storm bolter
. Terminator w/CF: Chainfist, Storm bolter
. 3x Terminator w/PF: 3x Power fist, 3x Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 178pts]: Armorium Cherub
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 170pts]: Armorium Cherub
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]: 2x Heavy flamer, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array

+ Flyer +

Fire Raptor Assault Gunship [19 PL, 362pts]
. Two quad heavy bolters: 2x Quad heavy bolter
. Two twin lascannons: 2x Twin lascannon


++ Total: [106 PL, 1997pts] ++

This gives me 8CP to play around with. I'm not 100% sure on the Terminators; while they've been useful I feel maybe I could swap them out for something else. There's also the option of which CT to use; when I used Lias before I always used Raven Guard, but this would be a good chance to try a new one. I'm still thinking of RG however, as that -1 to his is pretty awesome for a gunline, but I'm open to new ideas.

Thoughts?

I know what you mean with getting a lot of views but no one bothering with a comment...

I will give you my 2 cents on the troops first, more to follow later today.

Taking heavy weapons with tactical isn't worth it IMHO. The plasma gun and combi plasma on a tactical squad works great. If you drop the extra bodies from the tacticals you can give them to the devastator squads. Ablative wound are important so you don't start loosing your heavies so fast.

I dont think terminators are worth it, which is sad bc I never use mine anymore. For the points you could use so many different things...Razorback for example. What other units do you have?

Dwro1234 wrote:
I know what you mean with getting a lot of views but no one bothering with a comment...

I will give you my 2 cents on the troops first, more to follow later today.

Taking heavy weapons with tactical isn't worth it IMHO. The plasma gun and combi plasma on a tactical squad works great. If you drop the extra bodies from the tacticals you can give them to the devastator squads. Ablative wound are important so you don't start loosing your heavies so fast.

I dont think terminators are worth it, which is sad bc I never use mine anymore. For the points you could use so many different things...Razorback for example. What other units do you have?

Thanks for the feedback.

I've had moderate success with the Lascannons, is there a risk that if I drop the Tacticals down to 5 guys then I'm too few in numbers?

Yeah I agree with the Terminators, they do well when they show up with their Stormbolters, but they're more of a distraction unit rather than anything else. Unfortunately the only other things I really have at my disposal are a couple of Dreadnoughts and Assault Squads, as well as 3x Inceptors with Assault Bolters. Possibly the Inceptors may be a better alternative, or even some Aggressors?

I think there are only a couple of heavy weapons worth taking in a tactical squad, heavy bolters or grav cannons. Mainly due to the number of shots they can put out. But this requires you to get them into range, so things like a rhino are necessary.

Terminators aren't really that great in this edition. Also not that impressed by the range the list is bringing. Devs and some lasacannons here and there. Not really sure about those MM devs either.

Overall it just looks like a very static list, not very exciting.