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Made in nl
Regular Dakkanaut





I got a question for the Deathmarks 'Ethereal Interception' rule (not taking the whole new turn 1 deepstrike nonsense in)

With Ethereal Interception, the Deathmarks can 'counter deepstrike' against a unit that has come in from reserves. They can then make a shooting attack against the unit said unit.

However, with Forewarned or Auspex Array, an enemy unit is allowed to shoot at units that come in from deepstrike.

Confused yet? Here's an example:

I have got a unit of Deathmarks in reserve. My Eldar opponent decides to deepstrike in a unit of 20 Guardians next to a Farseer. I use Ethereal Interception on the Guardians to try and pluck some models away. However, the Eldar player then declares he will use Forewarned and shoot my Deathmarks with his Guardians. Who shoots first?
   
Made in de
Poxed Plague Monk





deathmarks first, since their shooting is part of the "etheral interception" rule.

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Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

If two rules are to be resolved at the same time sequencing comes into play. Core rules pg. 4 left sidebar. The player whose turn it is decides the order.
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






 p5freak wrote:
If two rules are to be resolved at the same time sequencing comes into play. Core rules pg. 4 left sidebar. The player whose turn it is decides the order.
This is the correct answer.

I am not sure whether the Auspex Scan or Ethereal Interception is resolved first though.

You can argue that Ethereal Interception must be fully resolved after it triggers, but you can also argue that the Auspex Scan happens the moment they are set up.

You can't declare the Auspex Scan until the Deathmarks are actually set up (since the condition for the stratagem is "immediately after your opponent sets up a unit that is arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements") which doesn't happen unless you resolve the Ethereal Interception rule, but it also says "immediately" which could indicate it can interrupt a rule mid-resolution.

This is a prime case for GW to give us a FAQ answer on how to resolve mid-rule interruptions.

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Made in fr
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot






 BaconCatBug wrote:
 p5freak wrote:
If two rules are to be resolved at the same time sequencing comes into play. Core rules pg. 4 left sidebar. The player whose turn it is decides the order.
This is the correct answer.

However, because the shooting from the Deathmarks is part of the rule that sets them up, it must be resolved first before the Auspex shooting happens.


I would agree that the ability of them coming in takes priority.

Deathmarks first would be my interpretation here.

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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




I can see both sides of the argument here however I would say that the strategum has to be resolved as an interupt ability and hence the sequencing rules apply.
Otherwise it's conditions can no longer be met as its no longer "immediately after your opponent sets up a unit that is arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements" if they have shot at something.
   
Made in no
Adolescent Youth on Ultramar



Norway

I had this question come up earlier regarding auspex scan, and ended up writing an email to the frontlinegaming guys. Their ruling was as p5freak said.
The player whos turn it is decides the order of things that happends simultaniously.

I know it's not official, but I rate them slightly higher than the average player.

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Lord of the Fleet






London

I would say the Deathmarks resolve their rule first, as their shooting is part of Ethereal Interception, so finish resolving their rule first before you move onto the next rule.
   
 
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